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The promise is only nonexistent to those steeped in
unbelief and those who are "selective" about what
they will receive from God's Word Lance. God calls this
kind of a person "double-minded" and says
that they will receive nothing from the Lord. (James
1:7,8)
Why do you call the Promise "nonexistent?"
One can only be appreciative of the contribution
made by yourself and David Miller as to my point of longstanding concerning
'illumination/interpretation'. You both lay claim to a
nonexistent promise and, thereafter exhibit the opposite in your
writing.
Election rather than "justification" is the subject
here JD; why do you seek to change it?
And why is it that you and Lance can not
accept the obvious
The Scots Confession
Written by John Knox and five other "Johns"
(Willock, Winram, Spottiswood, Row and Douglas), in 1560, at the conclusion
of the Scottish civil war in response to medieval catholicism and at the
behest of the Scottish Parliament in five days. Its central
doctrines are those of election and the Church. It was approved by
the Reformation Parliament and Church of Scotland, attaining full legal
status with the departure of Mary, Queen of Scots in
1567.
Yes, and the importance of this conclusion -- It is
Justification by Grace alone that guards the Gospel from corruption by
"Evangel icals," "Liberals," and Romans alike. ---- is lost to
those who think that their think don't stink.
jd
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From: "Lance Muir"
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You are quite correct as to your TFT
observations, JD. Judy brings to her reading of TFT a bias that will not
permit an equitable treatment of that which is there in the text of his
article.
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Sent: March 18, 2006 07:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
torrance.
As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to
all -- not a Calvinist opinion, my dear. And
you are much more the Calvinist that he.
His comments below gives us a consistent explanation of the
biblical notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the
law. It beats a redactive explanation of same !! that's
for sure.
jd
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
He also says this:
But the Scots Confession laid the axe to the root of any such
movement when it insisted that we have to spoil
ourselves even of our own regeneration and sanctification as well as
justification. What is "axed" so radically was the notion of
"co-redemption" which in our day has again become so rampant, not
only in the Roman Church, but in Liberal and Evangelical
Protestantism, e.g.,
the emphasis upon existential decision as the means whereby we "make real" for
ourselves the kerygma [proclamation] of the New Testament, which
means that in the last resort our salvation depends upon our own
personal or existential decision. That is the exact antithesis of the Reformed doctrine
of election, which rests salvation upon the prior and objective
decision of God in Christ. It is
Justification by Grace alone that guards the Gospel from corruption
by "Evangel icals," "Liberals," and Romans alike.
So Torrance is also a
Calvinist at heart who is resting in Calvin's "doctrine of election"
in spite of all the big theological words and high
talk...
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:43:32 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In the recent article posted by Lance from Torrance, the
theologican says this:
"Nowhere is this more apparent than in the case of the popular
minister where everything centers on him, and the whole life of
the congregation is built round him. What is that but
Protestant sacerdotalism, sacerdotalism which involves the
displacement of the Humanity of Christ by the humanity of the
minister, and the obscuring of the Person of Christ by the
personality of the minister?"
amen. We have here a well worded warning to the
mega church industry that the Christ, His very person,
just might be lost to a pattern of worship that denies
opportunities for authenticity and spontaneous
participation by the attendee. It can be argued that such
'worship services" fly in the face of such passages as Eph
5:18,19. There is a bonding and a closeness that takes
place in a small group that is not possible in the mega
assemblies.
jd
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