On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Nicolas Évrard <[email protected]> wrote:
> * Luis Falcon  [2011-11-17 19:23 +0100]:
>>
>> I don't agree. I believe we need to have commitment in what we talk,
>> suggest and write. A project must meet and deliver its goals. Then, of
>> course, in rare circumstances, something might not be delivered on
>> time, but that would be just an exception.
>
> We put goals in the roadmap because we think they are features/changes
> needed by the project and because we think that we should put the
> focus on those.
Who is "we" ?
>
>> What we can't do is getting do meeting in Belgium, move people around
>> from many countries around the world, agreed on the production module
>> and now say "we'll see if it happens...." or "this is free software
>> world and things might not happen". Is just not serious.
>
> That's not how I understood what happened at the TUL.
>
> The proposition on elveos date from September which means that the
> design is already almost clear (at least in Cédric's mind), people at
> the TUL recognized a need an decided to help by donating. Of course
> those donations will speed up the development but if the amount is not
> reached before the release I won't blame Cédric (or anybody else) for
> working on some stuffs that he finds more interesting. On the other
> hand is the amount is reached, then B2CK will have to create the
> module : at that time there will be a contract between the
> subscriptors and B2CK.
I don't like this concept. You can do whatever you feel is more
interesting, but then don't put other things on the list.
>
> And I am definitely serious when I say that.
>
>> Don't get me wrong. This is a great project and that's why a lot of us
>> are here, contributing and supporting it, but we need to deliver the
>> goals, otherwise it will become chaotic and unpredictable.
>
> It's not chaotic / unpredictable the way it is now. It's just that
> stuffs will happen only if the community really want them.
The community wants the production module, as well as a good home
page. But I don't see it happening either.
> There is no OpenERP SA to drive the developments here, you're not customers, 
> we're
> not your supplier (unless you order us some stuffs like others already
> did).
I agree with that concept. We don't want to be customers and don't see
B2CK as a supplier.
If we're not customers and you're not suppliers, drop it with the
Elveos portal. You contradict yourself.

>
>> PS: Time to have the Tryton foundation.
>
> It don't think it would solve what you're thinking is the issue.
> But this is not the issue of this thread, so we should discuss this in
> the dedicated topic.

It's quite hard to discuss, propose or do anything with your attitude.

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