* Luis Falcon [2011-11-18 13:02 +0100]:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Nicolas Évrard <[email protected]> wrote:
* Luis Falcon [2011-11-17 19:23 +0100]:
I don't agree. I believe we need to have commitment in what we talk,
suggest and write. A project must meet and deliver its goals. Then, of
course, in rare circumstances, something might not be delivered on
time, but that would be just an exception.
We put goals in the roadmap because we think they are features/changes
needed by the project and because we think that we should put the
focus on those.
Who is "we" ?
'We' the community represented by Cédric which is the leader of the
tryton framework development.
Moreover it's a wiki, if people want to add stuffs they can. They can
also remove points. The purpose of the goal page is to trigger a
discussion, if needed.
That's not how I understood what happened at the TUL.
The proposition on elveos date from September which means that the
design is already almost clear (at least in Cédric's mind), people at
the TUL recognized a need an decided to help by donating. Of course
those donations will speed up the development but if the amount is not
reached before the release I won't blame Cédric (or anybody else) for
working on some stuffs that he finds more interesting. On the other
hand is the amount is reached, then B2CK will have to create the
module : at that time there will be a contract between the
subscriptors and B2CK.
I don't like this concept. You can do whatever you feel is more
interesting, but then don't put other things on the list.
I did not decide what are the goals. But on my free time I know for
sure that I won't work on the MRP. On my work time I know for sure
that I won't work on the MRP, unless there is sufficient funding.
Those are facts … you don't like them so be it.
It's not chaotic / unpredictable the way it is now. It's just that
stuffs will happen only if the community really want them.
The community wants the production module, as well as a good home
page. But I don't see it happening either.
Bertrand already explained why the home page has not yet changed. You
want to get the stuff moving, turn the designs into a sphinx template
then we can move on. I am not specially in favor of the sphinx
template rule but that's the rule.
The production module is on its way.
There is no OpenERP SA to drive the developments here, you're not customers,
we're
not your supplier (unless you order us some stuffs like others already
did).
I agree with that concept. We don't want to be customers and don't see
B2CK as a supplier.
If we're not customers and you're not suppliers, drop it with the
Elveos portal. You contradict yourself.
There is no contradiction, we (B2CK) propose a service, people pay for
it if they want to.
Anybody can propose his own service on elveos, anybody can also
propose to create the production module for a smaller (or higher)
amount of money.
And only once the amount of the quote has been reached there is
contract between the contributors and the guy behind the offer. Before
that there is nothing.
Moreover, some development can not be funded only by one company (too
heavy and probably too generic) or by individuals … so we though that
elveos seemed like a good solution. Nobody complained when Cédric
proposed it.
PS: Time to have the Tryton foundation.
It don't think it would solve what you're thinking is the issue.
But this is not the issue of this thread, so we should discuss this in
the dedicated topic.
It's quite hard to discuss, propose or do anything with your attitude.
I am just explaining my point of view.
You don't want to talk about that OK but do not rant if the things do
not go the way you want them to go.
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