* Luis Falcon [2011-11-18 19:06 +0100]:
The proposition on elveos date from September which means that the
design is already almost clear (at least in Cédric's mind), people at
the TUL recognized a need an decided to help by donating. Of course
those donations will speed up the development but if the amount is not
reached before the release I won't blame Cédric (or anybody else) for
working on some stuffs that he finds more interesting. On the other
hand is the amount is reached, then B2CK will have to create the
module : at that time there will be a contract between the
subscriptors and B2CK.
I don't like this concept. You can do whatever you feel is more
interesting, but then don't put other things on the list.
I did not decide what are the goals. But on my free time I know for
sure that I won't work on the MRP. On my work time I know for sure
that I won't work on the MRP, unless there is sufficient funding.
Those are facts … you don't like them so be it.
In your free time, you can paint Mona Lisa if you want, I don't
really care.
Then when should the module be developed ?
We, as the community, have been asking for the MRP module. Our clients
ask for the MRP module... seems like the only one who doesn't find it
important is you.
You find it important … You do it or ask someone else to do it for
you. That's as simple as that.
Moreover I find that this is an important improvement but I am not
willing to spend some unpaid time on it (because on my unpaid time as
you say I can do whatever I want and I prefer to do something else :
py3, hgreview, some twisted, whatever).
Again, this "funding project concept" is not good, especially when we
talk about a key module like MRP.
Maybe you should have raised your voice when Cédric proposed elveos
then.
If there was no elveos, the MRP module would still be in the limbos.
What alternative do you propose ?
It's not chaotic / unpredictable the way it is now. It's just that
stuffs will happen only if the community really want them.
The community wants the production module, as well as a good home
page. But I don't see it happening either.
Bertrand already explained why the home page has not yet changed. You
want to get the stuff moving, turn the designs into a sphinx template
then we can move on. I am not specially in favor of the sphinx
template rule but that's the rule.
Whoever proposed sphinx - rejecting the other options - , then they
should do it. Now, if you reject the other options and ignore the work
done by the community, that's not being fair and taking for granted
the work that the community has done voluntarily.
Well the community decided to use .rst format way before the website
redesign subject was raised here. Those who proposed the designed
should have made the effort to make their stuff compliant with the
community decision.
If someone comes with a MRP module written in PHP we won't recode
tryton to make it compatible with it. There was a choice the newcomers
(and I am one) have to adapt to it.
Do you remember that you asked someone to volunteer to make the sphinx
template and nobody steps in yet …
http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/msg/9e4fd2fdff8dd44f
PS: Time to have the Tryton foundation.
It don't think it would solve what you're thinking is the issue.
But this is not the issue of this thread, so we should discuss this in
the dedicated topic.
It's quite hard to discuss, propose or do anything with your attitude.
I am just explaining my point of view.
You don't want to talk about that OK but do not rant if the things do
not go the way you want them to go.
I rant anytime I feel like ranting. It is my right in a free society :-)
This is your right indeed. Ranting has never been a good way to get
the stuff going in the "right" direction. Your rants will not motivate
hackers to listen to you and maybe even rotting the mood.
Which lead me to the conclusion that other emails on the subject will
finish in /dev/null because neither of us will change his mind on this
subject.
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