On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Nicolas Évrard <[email protected]> wrote: > * Luis Falcon [2011-11-18 13:02 +0100]: >> >> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Nicolas Évrard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> * Luis Falcon [2011-11-17 19:23 +0100]: >>>> >>>> I don't agree. I believe we need to have commitment in what we talk, >>>> suggest and write. A project must meet and deliver its goals. Then, of >>>> course, in rare circumstances, something might not be delivered on >>>> time, but that would be just an exception. >>> >>> We put goals in the roadmap because we think they are features/changes >>> needed by the project and because we think that we should put the >>> focus on those. >> >> Who is "we" ? > > 'We' the community represented by Cédric which is the leader of the > tryton framework development. > > Moreover it's a wiki, if people want to add stuffs they can. They can > also remove points. The purpose of the goal page is to trigger a > discussion, if needed. > >>> That's not how I understood what happened at the TUL. >>> >>> The proposition on elveos date from September which means that the >>> design is already almost clear (at least in Cédric's mind), people at >>> the TUL recognized a need an decided to help by donating. Of course >>> those donations will speed up the development but if the amount is not >>> reached before the release I won't blame Cédric (or anybody else) for >>> working on some stuffs that he finds more interesting. On the other >>> hand is the amount is reached, then B2CK will have to create the >>> module : at that time there will be a contract between the >>> subscriptors and B2CK. >> >> I don't like this concept. You can do whatever you feel is more >> interesting, but then don't put other things on the list. > > I did not decide what are the goals. But on my free time I know for > sure that I won't work on the MRP. On my work time I know for sure > that I won't work on the MRP, unless there is sufficient funding. > Those are facts … you don't like them so be it.
In your free time, you can paint Mona Lisa if you want, I don't really care. We, as the community, have been asking for the MRP module. Our clients ask for the MRP module... seems like the only one who doesn't find it important is you. Again, this "funding project concept" is not good, especially when we talk about a key module like MRP. > >>> It's not chaotic / unpredictable the way it is now. It's just that >>> stuffs will happen only if the community really want them. >> >> The community wants the production module, as well as a good home >> page. But I don't see it happening either. > > Bertrand already explained why the home page has not yet changed. You > want to get the stuff moving, turn the designs into a sphinx template > then we can move on. I am not specially in favor of the sphinx > template rule but that's the rule. Whoever proposed sphinx - rejecting the other options - , then they should do it. Now, if you reject the other options and ignore the work done by the community, that's not being fair and taking for granted the work that the community has done voluntarily. > > The production module is on its way. > >>> There is no OpenERP SA to drive the developments here, you're not >>> customers, we're >>> not your supplier (unless you order us some stuffs like others already >>> did). >> >> I agree with that concept. We don't want to be customers and don't see >> B2CK as a supplier. >> If we're not customers and you're not suppliers, drop it with the >> Elveos portal. You contradict yourself. > > There is no contradiction, we (B2CK) propose a service, people pay for > it if they want to. > > Anybody can propose his own service on elveos, anybody can also > propose to create the production module for a smaller (or higher) > amount of money. > > And only once the amount of the quote has been reached there is > contract between the contributors and the guy behind the offer. Before > that there is nothing. > > Moreover, some development can not be funded only by one company (too > heavy and probably too generic) or by individuals … so we though that > elveos seemed like a good solution. Nobody complained when Cédric > proposed it. > >>>> PS: Time to have the Tryton foundation. >>> >>> It don't think it would solve what you're thinking is the issue. >>> But this is not the issue of this thread, so we should discuss this in >>> the dedicated topic. >> >> It's quite hard to discuss, propose or do anything with your attitude. > > I am just explaining my point of view. > You don't want to talk about that OK but do not rant if the things do > not go the way you want them to go. I rant anytime I feel like ranting. It is my right in a free society :-) > > -- > Nicolas Évrard > > B2CK SPRL > rue de Rotterdam, 4 > 4000 Liège > Belgium > Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 > E-mail/Jabber: [email protected] > Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ > > -- > [email protected] mailing list > -- [email protected] mailing list
