On 2016-05-03 08:08, pgm.lam...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:05:04 PM UTC+2, Cédric Krier wrote:
> >
> > On 2016-05-03 05:49, pgm.l...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 12:00:04 PM UTC+2, Cédric Krier wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > On 2016-05-03 02:25, pgm.l...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: 
> > > > > Cédric, made the list because there was a discussion about this. 
> > > > 
> > > > I mean I can not understand/read what it means. The formatting is 
> > > > strange. Please elaborate it. 
> > > > Cédric, just don't like discussions about the accounting date. For 
> > > > > delivery its the delivery date, for the invoice its the invoice 
> > date. 
> >
> > I still don't understand this answer. 
> >
> > > > > I'm afraid that Issue5205 still does not accept the freedom that 
> > many 
> > > > > countries have with invoice dates and numbers. In your mail of 
> > > > 24-12-2015 
> > > > > you write: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "...to ensure that the invoice date not before any invoice dates 
> > > > numbered with the same sequence ..." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But maybe I misunderstand your text ... I hope ... ... 
> > > > 
> > > > This means that invoice number must follow a increasing sequence 
> > number 
> > > > when ordered by invoice date. 
> > > > For the sequence, its right that a new invoice gets the increasing 
> > sequence 
> > > > > number. Of course. 
> > > > > But .... this has no relation with any date ... 
> > > > > The number of a new invoice is always the last invoice number +1, 
> > but 
> > > > > sometime the date of the new invoice is before the last invoice 
> > date. 
> >
> > I don't think this is allowed in any country. If you know one country 
> > where this behaviour is allowed please share. 
> >
> > > > Could you name at least one country where numbering invoice should not 
> > > > follow at least this rule? 
> > > > Unfortunately I still don't know your "when ordered by invoice date". 
> > > > Sorry. 
> >
> > Usually the rules of invoice numbering in countries is like this: 
> >
> >     2015-12-20: INV-0018 
> >     2015-12-21: INV-0019 
> >     2015-12-22: INV-0020 
> >
> >     2016-01-02: INV-0001 
> >     2016-01-03: INV-0002 
> >
> > even if INV-0002 was created before INV-0020 
> > This means that if you look at the generated invoice over one fiscal 
> > year ordered by invoice date, you must see only increasing and 
> > continuous numbering. 
> >
> > Very clean explanation Cédri. Thanks!!!
> 
> In these countries I have the possibility to create 2015-12-22: INV-0020 
> in 2016, after INV-0002.

In which countries???

> > issue5205 is about not resetting the sequence so we will have: 
> >
> >     2015-12-20: INV-0018 
> >     2015-12-21: INV-0019 
> >     2015-12-22: INV-0020 
> >
> >     2016-01-02: INV-0021 
> >     2016-01-03: INV-0022 
> >
> > But we can not allow to do this: 
> >
> >     2015-12-20: INV-0018 
> >     2015-12-21: INV-0019 
> >     2015-12-22: INV-0022 
> >
> >     2016-01-02: INV-0020 
> >     2016-01-03: INV-0021 
> >
> > In the Netherlands I created 2015-12-22: INV-0022 in 2016, after creating 
> 2016-01-03: INV-0021. Did it in Exact, the largest financial application in 
> this country.
> Within the discussion Vincent Bastos wrote: ... or my part ( Australia ), 
> the sequence is not important. As you can see in the links below, the ATO ( 
> Australian Taxation Office ) does not require an invoice to have a number 
> :)... we are pretty easy going down under. ...
> At least the Netherlands and Australia don't have rules for numbering the 
> invoices.

I can understand that Australia doesn't care about invoice numbering
because they doesn't have VAT. But in Netherlands, I have some doubt, it
is not because a software allow to do it that it is the truth. By the
way, are you sure that the accounting date is really in the past?

> > Because if there is a fiscal control for the year 2015, the controller 
> > can not know if the hole between INV-0019 and INV-0022 is because there 
> > are invoices on another fiscal year or if it is a tax fraud by hiding 
> > invoices. 
> >
> > In the view of invoices with invoice number as order, the controller can 
> see, that there are no missing numbers. No fraud.

How can he see the invoice for the next fiscal year when he is verifying
the current fiscal year?

> Note that I'm talking about the accounting date which is most of the 
> > time the same as the invoice date, except usually during the period of 
> > fiscal year change. 
> >
> 
> I don't understand that the invoice date can be different from the 
> accounting date when the year changes ... 

Korbinian answered

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