> Now I really dislike the way the term "user" has been used on this
> thread, first of all everyone here is a programmer or wants to be,
> second we all are here because we think python is better for webapps
> then any of the mayor deployed technologies, so we are not average
> user not average programmers. So thinks like expecting your users to
> <insert task here> are just totally out of place, I'll accept that
> kind of argument if we where programming something like wesnoth or
> even a tool like azureus. But saying that you can't contribute here
> because your "an user" it's just not acceptable at least to me. Now
> saying that you are a newbie that doesn't understand much of the
> internals that's fine but then help on something else. 

I'm sorry, but the above is totally ridiculous. To say that just because
someone is a good enough programmer to start *using* tg that they should
then also 

- have time to develop
- have time to doc
- be good enough to do the above
- feel obligated to do the aboe

is a vast oversimplification. And is guaranteed to turn off potential
new users. If I didn't think your attitude towards that was in the
minority of the dev core, it would turn me right off from contributing
to TG. There is a very very big difference between the python chops to
use TG and to develop TG. And if you can't see that, than you certainly
won't be able to write docs appropriate for the *new* tg user. Unless
you think TG should be so elitist as not to cater to these new users?

Writing docs is like *teaching*. I have previously taught music for a
living so I know what a frustrated student looks like. If you expect
them not to complain, than seriously, might as well not be in the doc
team.

Anyway, enough of this I'm sure
Iain


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