I don't think there is any real analogy between Conan and Fallon. Its not just that they had Leno waiting in the wings - and their own insecurity that they had made a mistake in replacing him. They had Leno sucking a huge, really unprecdented, ratings hole in both their prime time and late night line-up (it is only really in the last couple of years that NBC's primetime has recovered from Leno), while at the same time whispering in the ears of the affiliates he had sucked up to for decades that he belonged back after, instead of before, the local news. I don't think there is any way NBC cans Conan even with Leno in the wings if he had not been carpet bombing their Prime Time. That had as much to do with saving local news from the Leno-anchor as it did with raising the ratings of the Tonight Show.
Yes, the Tonight Show is a historical profit center, but it will continue to be a profit center even with Fallon in a close second place to Colbert. On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:52 AM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > They were so quick with Conan. I guess you could argue that they learned > their lesson, or that there's no proven ratings winner like Leno waiting in > the wings. But Johnny never lost to Cavett or Sajak. Leno bounced back > against Letterman. This is a historical profit center struggling. > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:01 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Assuming Tonight stays 1 or relatively close 2, Fallon is going nowhere. >> His salary is not high enough to justify the risk of the unknown. Plus we >> will need at least a year to see how long Trumpism can float Colbert's >> boat. >> >> Colbert did have a particularly good week last week, as might be >> expected. But what I find most promising for the long haul is that there >> are signs they are finally starting to find their way with Batiste. His >> interjections have been significantly toned down lately, and even relevant >> much of the time. And they seem to be highlighting the band playing in and >> out of breaks more effectively, so that the TV audience can begin to >> believe they are something special, and not a glorified novelty band. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 6:10 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I wonder at what point NBC decides that major changes have to be made? >>>> >>> >>> The experience of the last ten years seems to be if income stays at the >>> same level no changes will be made. If income falls off the show's budget >>> will be cut. I could see NBC not renewing Fallon's contract when it comes >>> up, but not terminating him and taking a chance on an unknown host. And >>> Meyers is not the answer. While his show has sharper political content, the >>> rest of his show serves as a reminder that his years as SNL's head writer >>> were not the show's best years. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> -- >> TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
