You could argue that it's a closed beta, so it's for finding this stuff
out...but yeah, I agree with you.

I just know how these threads can snowball, and I want to share my
experience that oneforty is made by good people. Don't like it, don't sign,
and of course raise concerns, but I would hate to see people start believing
they have some evil plot to rule the world at our expense.

 -- ivey


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Badera <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> All else aside ... lawyers complicate things? Maybe, but you don't
> launch a product/platform and expect commitment from outside parties
> until YOU are happy with what YOUR lawyers have produced and thus YOU
> are offering to the outside world.
>
> There's no defense for a questionable contract. You stand behind your
> contract, or you don't publish it. Period.
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Michael Ivey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > "OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform."
> >
> > I think this is a demonstrably false statement. All of my interactions
> with
> > Laura and the 140 team have been very positive, and she's made it clear
> that
> > they're working on the contract. Sometimes lawyers overcomplicate things,
> > and it takes time to dial it back.
> >
> > And yes, when I claimed Twitpay I balked at the contract initially. We
> don't
> > have an app to sell, so none of it applied to us, and I knew Laura was
> > working on it, so I went ahead with the registration.
> >
> > Whether you sign it or not, I hope people will give Laura and her team
> time
> > to sort this out. She's a good person, and has shown a real desire to
> make
> > something good here.
> >
> >  -- ivey
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Duane Roelands <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I read it, and I was horrified.  So, I logged into IRC and found two
> >> members of the OneForty development team.  I asked them to remove my
> >> application from the directory.
> >>
> >> They refused.
> >>
> >> OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 8, 7:44 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > wow, somehow managed to totally miss that thread... thanks!
> >> >
> >> > On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Dewald Pretorius <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > There's another thread herehttp://bit.ly/Owfvdwherethe developer
> >> > > contract also raised some eyebrows.
> >> >
> >> > > Dewald
> >> >
> >> > > On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > There has been a lot of buzz around OneForty.com and what it will
> >> > > > mean
> >> > > > for all of us Twitter app developers. However, some of the things
> in
> >> > > > their developer contract (that you have to agree to in order to
> >> > > > claim
> >> > > > your application on their side) gave us (Squeejee) pause after we
> >> > > > decided to read the fine print.
> >> >
> >> > > > Please see read the contract for yourself
> >> > > > (http://oneforty.com/terms/
> >> > > > publisher_contract), see our blog post with our concerns (http://
> >> > > > squeejee.com/blog/2009/10/08/questions-for-oneforty) and leave
> your
> >> > > > comments!
> >> >
> >> > > > Laura Fitton, the founder of oneforty.com, has been very
> receptive
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > wants to engage in open dialogue about the contract. Please add to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > discussion!
> >
>

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