Laura, Sounds like you're taking some of the right steps to make your offering better for everyone concerned. I look forward to seeing the results of your efforts.
∞ Andy Badera ∞ +1 518-641-1280 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Pistachio <pistachioconsult...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Andrew us absolutely correct. I personally bear full responsibility > for letting that flawed contract get into production, even on a beta. > It was likewise my error of judgment to assume that the alpha testers > had been fine with the proposed contract merely because we had not > received adverse feedback. > > We're listening. We're learning. > > Our comment on Bradley's post (http://bit.ly/DgM40) summarizes some of > the contentious points we're revising, but there are others. > > To make this right, we'd like to better engage the TwitterAPI > community in reviewing our next version. We are also separating the > claiming terms from the resale terms. > > One more thing worth mentioning, we held off on building features that > will allow developers to offer items for sale because we want to work > that - and the related contract issues - out in close cooperation with > developers. We'd love to hear from you if you want to have a voice on > that. > > I've been sending out my cell # on all emails bound for developers > because we want to be extremely accessible to developers. on email, > Twitter, IRC... > > We will be working hard to earn your trust and to discover how we can > better serve. > > Warmly, > Laura Fitton > la...@oneforty.com > > (sent from @pistachio: RT @dwroelands @oneforty needs to change their > developer contract #onefortycontract http://bit.ly/DgM40 //we're > seeking feedback) > > On Oct 8, 10:21 pm, Andrew Badera <and...@badera.us> wrote: >> All else aside ... lawyers complicate things? Maybe, but you don't >> launch a product/platform and expect commitment from outside parties >> until YOU are happy with what YOUR lawyers have produced and thus YOU >> are offering to the outside world. >> >> There's no defense for a questionable contract. You stand behind your >> contract, or you don't publish it. Period. >> >> ∞ Andy Badera >> ∞+1 518-641-1280 >> ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private >> ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Michael Ivey <michael.i...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > "OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform." >> >> > I think this is a demonstrably false statement. All of my interactions with >> > Laura and the 140 team have been very positive, and she's made it clear >> > that >> > they're working on the contract. Sometimes lawyers overcomplicate things, >> > and it takes time to dial it back. >> >> > And yes, when I claimed Twitpay I balked at the contract initially. We >> > don't >> > have an app to sell, so none of it applied to us, and I knew Laura was >> > working on it, so I went ahead with the registration. >> >> > Whether you sign it or not, I hope people will give Laura and her team time >> > to sort this out. She's a good person, and has shown a real desire to make >> > something good here. >> >> > -- ivey >> >> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Duane Roelands <duane.roela...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> I read it, and I was horrified. So, I logged into IRC and found two >> >> members of the OneForty development team. I asked them to remove my >> >> application from the directory. >> >> >> They refused. >> >> >> OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform. >> >> >> On Oct 8, 7:44 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote: >> >> > wow, somehow managed to totally miss that thread... thanks! >> >> >> > On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > > There's another thread herehttp://bit.ly/Owfvdwherethedeveloper >> >> > > contract also raised some eyebrows. >> >> >> > > Dewald >> >> >> > > On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote: >> >> >> > > > There has been a lot of buzz around OneForty.com and what it will >> >> > > > mean >> >> > > > for all of us Twitter app developers. However, some of the things in >> >> > > > their developer contract (that you have to agree to in order to >> >> > > > claim >> >> > > > your application on their side) gave us (Squeejee) pause after we >> >> > > > decided to read the fine print. >> >> >> > > > Please see read the contract for yourself >> >> > > > (http://oneforty.com/terms/ >> >> > > > publisher_contract), see our blog post with our concerns (http:// >> >> > > > squeejee.com/blog/2009/10/08/questions-for-oneforty) and leave your >> >> > > > comments! >> >> >> > > > Laura Fitton, the founder of oneforty.com, has been very receptive >> >> > > > and >> >> > > > wants to engage in open dialogue about the contract. Please add to >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > discussion! >