Laura,

Sounds like you're taking some of the right steps to make your
offering better for everyone concerned. I look forward to seeing the
results of your efforts.

∞ Andy Badera
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Pistachio <pistachioconsult...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew us absolutely correct. I personally bear full responsibility
> for letting that flawed contract get into production, even on a beta.
> It was likewise my error of judgment to assume that the alpha testers
> had been fine with the proposed contract merely because we had not
> received adverse feedback.
>
> We're listening. We're learning.
>
> Our comment on Bradley's post (http://bit.ly/DgM40) summarizes some of
> the contentious points we're revising, but there are others.
>
> To make this right, we'd like to better engage the TwitterAPI
> community in reviewing our next version. We are also separating the
> claiming terms from the resale terms.
>
> One more thing worth mentioning, we held off on building features that
> will allow developers to offer items for sale because we want to work
> that - and the related contract issues - out in close cooperation with
> developers. We'd love to hear from you if you want to have a voice on
> that.
>
> I've been sending out my cell # on all emails bound for developers
> because we want to be extremely accessible to developers. on email,
> Twitter, IRC...
>
> We will be working hard to earn your trust and to discover how we can
> better serve.
>
> Warmly,
> Laura Fitton
> la...@oneforty.com
>
> (sent from @pistachio: RT @dwroelands @oneforty needs to change their
> developer contract #onefortycontract http://bit.ly/DgM40 //we're
> seeking feedback)
>
> On Oct 8, 10:21 pm, Andrew Badera <and...@badera.us> wrote:
>> All else aside ... lawyers complicate things? Maybe, but you don't
>> launch a product/platform and expect commitment from outside parties
>> until YOU are happy with what YOUR lawyers have produced and thus YOU
>> are offering to the outside world.
>>
>> There's no defense for a questionable contract. You stand behind your
>> contract, or you don't publish it. Period.
>>
>> ∞ Andy Badera
>> ∞+1 518-641-1280
>> ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
>> ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Michael Ivey <michael.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform."
>>
>> > I think this is a demonstrably false statement. All of my interactions with
>> > Laura and the 140 team have been very positive, and she's made it clear 
>> > that
>> > they're working on the contract. Sometimes lawyers overcomplicate things,
>> > and it takes time to dial it back.
>>
>> > And yes, when I claimed Twitpay I balked at the contract initially. We 
>> > don't
>> > have an app to sell, so none of it applied to us, and I knew Laura was
>> > working on it, so I went ahead with the registration.
>>
>> > Whether you sign it or not, I hope people will give Laura and her team time
>> > to sort this out. She's a good person, and has shown a real desire to make
>> > something good here.
>>
>> >  -- ivey
>>
>> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Duane Roelands <duane.roela...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I read it, and I was horrified.  So, I logged into IRC and found two
>> >> members of the OneForty development team.  I asked them to remove my
>> >> application from the directory.
>>
>> >> They refused.
>>
>> >> OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform.
>>
>> >> On Oct 8, 7:44 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote:
>> >> > wow, somehow managed to totally miss that thread... thanks!
>>
>> >> > On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > There's another thread herehttp://bit.ly/Owfvdwherethedeveloper
>> >> > > contract also raised some eyebrows.
>>
>> >> > > Dewald
>>
>> >> > > On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > There has been a lot of buzz around OneForty.com and what it will
>> >> > > > mean
>> >> > > > for all of us Twitter app developers. However, some of the things in
>> >> > > > their developer contract (that you have to agree to in order to
>> >> > > > claim
>> >> > > > your application on their side) gave us (Squeejee) pause after we
>> >> > > > decided to read the fine print.
>>
>> >> > > > Please see read the contract for yourself
>> >> > > > (http://oneforty.com/terms/
>> >> > > > publisher_contract), see our blog post with our concerns (http://
>> >> > > > squeejee.com/blog/2009/10/08/questions-for-oneforty) and leave your
>> >> > > > comments!
>>
>> >> > > > Laura Fitton, the founder of oneforty.com, has been very receptive
>> >> > > > and
>> >> > > > wants to engage in open dialogue about the contract. Please add to
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > discussion!
>

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