It doesn't give me a choice which connector to use.
As I said, I can connect to UD 5.2 and UD 7.2 on two different servers with any other client software on my PC (SBClient, UniAdmin, mvDeveloper, VSG) by just entering the server name.


On 07/09/2011 02:45, David Jordan wrote:
Hi Mecki

You should not need a jdbc driver, this is why I suspect you maybe using the 
data connector for RDBMs databases instead of U2 data connector which uses 
uniobjects.

David Jordan

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 9:02 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]

David,

I bet you are right, but what users want is to be able to install software like 
that without having to search the documentation for hours.
I don't mind if I have to search for and download a JDBC driver from the net to 
connect to SQL Server, DB2 or Oracle data sources but I expect a Rocket product 
to work straight away for U2.
I get a screen that asks me for the UD server name and even though that name 
one works for SB client, VSG, UniAdmin and tools like mvDeveloper it won't 
connect in DataVu.
All I found so far is that I need this driver (hell knows where to get it from) 
and a file called bi.jdbc,drivers (or something like that) that needs to be 
created somewhere by the administrator.
Hell, I am the administrator and I haven't got a clue how to do that!


On 06/09/2011 23:22, David Jordan wrote:
Mecki
You do not need a JDBC driver, it uses uniobjects.   There is a video showing 
how to install and read the documentation.   The installation is not intuitive, 
but it is not hard.   I made the mistake first not to read the documentation 
which takes you through step by step.

Regards
David Jordan

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gerd
Forthmann
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 1:00 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]

Well, I can't even connect to the host. A get an error message U2DB1004.
I reckon you guys really need to make this a lot easier if you want people tto 
use this and buy the other modules.
In the documentation it says something about a JDBC driver that needs to be 
installed but isn't included in the package and some obscure file that needs to 
be created somewhere and contains connection data but to me this is just Greek 
and doesn't mean anything.
Other products like mvDeveloper just work without having to find a driver 
somewhere and create any files by hand.
I bet you can do better than that.

Mecki
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Datum: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:20:14 +0000
Von: Daniel McGrath<dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com>
An: U2 Users List<u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Betreff: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
Okay, so once you download DV Query there is a quick start guide that
will tell you what you need to do.

You need to run CONVERT.SQL on your files so that it has access to
them, but you don't need to worry about creating the schemas with VSG
or using HS.ADMIN like you would otherwise. Actually, there is a way
to just use UPDATE.SQL.PRIVILEGES to get around this
(https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/documentation/1410030.asp), although we 
recommend you do the CONVERT.SQL way.

If you are running older versions of U2 you may need to update
XTOOLSUB, which is also a Tech note on TechConnect.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Romanow
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Bill Haskett<wphask...@advantos.net>
wrote:
Steve:

Really?  I was looking at DataVu for UniData and I understood that I
did need to SQL'ize all my data.  So, if I hosted a number of
accounts I'd have to go through the entire process of figuring how
to duplicate the accounts for SQL file access, keep them all
straight, and fight with all that this entails.

Are you sure I misunderstood this?

Thanks,

Bill Haskett

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*Date:* 9/2/2011 9:47 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, John
Thompson<jthompson...@gmail.com>
   wrote:
For example:

If my goal was to teach a fairly savvy computer user to get data
out of
U2
into, lets say Excel... without the user coming to ask me to write
some query for them...

What would be the pros/cons of doing the ODBC way, vs. doing it
the DataVu way?

Forgive my ignorance... Does that make sense?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Daniel
McGrath<dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
I'm not entirely sure on what you want here?

DataVu (the free Query and paid Report&     Dashboard products) are
querying, reporting and dashboard tools whereas ODBC is just an
interface.


-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:36 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]

Is there a comparison chart of DataVu vs. ODBC?

I am planning on investigating both for reporting purposes, but,
I was just curious if there was anything out there that listed
the pros and cons of both in a nice little table.


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Daniel McGrath<
dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
Free as in free beer on the house.

Just install and run. There is no need to authorize.

Regards,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:20 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]

Is this a licensed product?  Or does it come with the U2
licenses we have purchased?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Daniel McGrath<
dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
Since DataVu Query recently came up here, I thought I should
let you all know we have just released a new version of the
free DataVu Query tool
(v2.0.1)

We have introduced new capabilities to combine your queries and
results.
   You can filter and quickly create charts with just a couple
of clicks.
Also, a new quick start wizard guides you through the steps to
connect to your U2 data so you can quickly get up and running
with
U2 DataVu Query. You can download this from our downloads page.

Don't forget we have videos available on U2DevZone on the
'Accelerate'
page.

Regards,

Dan McGrath
U2 Product Manager
Rocket Software
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2

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The odbc way requires you to use VSG to normalize your U2 data.
DataVue does not.
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On this page

http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/u2/products/datavu/offer

it states

"No VSG Schemas for UniData or HS.ADMIN setup for UniVerse are
required to access your U2 data. Click here to download this free
tool together with its example database to get started using U2 DataVu Query."
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