Joe

Have you sized your UV file correctly? The 15-20 seconds suggests many
things are not as they should be.

Can you do an "ANALYZE.FILE" on this file and post the details. If it is a
dynamic hashed file include the option "STATS" please.

We may be able to help you after all.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
OSP

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing


> This is what I meant ... TYPO
>
> RESULTS
>
> Machine: 950 MHZ Athlon
> Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
> Records: 20 Million
> Indexes: NO
> Search Column: First Name
> Search Type: Wild Card (*)
> Search Time: 2 Seconds
> ----------------------
> Machine: QUAD Processor Box (4 GHZ)
> Database: UV Version 10.1
> Records: 500,000
> Indexes: YES
> Search Column: First Name
> Search Type: Wild Card
> Search Time: 15 - 20 Seconds
>
> PICK = A FLAVOR of BASIC...Sometimes called PICK BASIC OR UV BASIC.
> Call it whatever you want.
>
> JOE
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:55 PM
> > To: U2 Users Discussion List
> > Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > Perhaps you could share your actual searches, code and database
> > structure? Were you searching 20 million records in a single column
> > table? Multiple "fields (or columns if you insist)" in the Universe
> > database? What is this PICK you keep talking about? Universe doesn't
> > have a component named PICK, there is certainly a flavour. That is
> your
> > choice to use it, you are not compelled to.
> >
> > How do we know you are comparing apples with apples? How were your
> > indexes structured? I haven't seen "Universe Standards" for indexing.
> > Please elucidate on this as I am obviously ignorant in this area.
> > Unfortunately your claims are now starting to fluctuate between the
> > fantastic and the ludicrous. How can you expect to be taken seriously
> > when you don't provide a sound basis for your argument?
> >
> > I presume you meant the first database to be Universe? Obviously it
> must
> > be as it was the fast one 8-)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > David Logan
> > Database Administrator
> > HP Managed Services
> > 139 Frome Street,
> > Adelaide 5000
> > Australia
> >
> > +61 8 8408 4273
> > +61 417 268 665
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Joe Eugene
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:17 AM
> > To: U2 Users Discussion List
> > Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> >
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > Our Customer Information is stored in UV and accessed via PICK.
> > This FILE (as UV ppl call it) contains around 500,000 Records in it.
> > Everything is INDEXED Per UV Standards.
> >
> > Here is simple WILD CARD Search Test.
> >
> > RESULTS
> >
> > Machine: 950 MHZ Athlon
> > Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
> > Records: 20 Million
> > Indexes: NO
> > Search Time: 2 Seconds
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Machine: QUAD Processor Box (4 GHZ)
> > Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
> > Records: 500,000
> > Indexes: YES
> > Search Time: 15 - 20 Seconds
> >
> > I had to Increase the Time out on application servers to support
> MR.SLOW
> > UV!
> >
> > How do you think I am supposed to believe UV Performs Well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe Eugene
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Results
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> > > To: U2 Users Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >     Here's a few things to consider. MV environments (including
> > > UniVerse), allow for small teams to develop and adjust business
> rules
> > > more quickly than you can you can in Oracle, Sybase, or Informix.
> > > Published statistics show that MV environments are roughly twice as
> > > efficient in disk usage (smaller footprint means faster searches -
> > > forget the 'who cares, disk is cheap' argument, search speed is
> always
> > a
> > > premium issue). MV environments are typically three times as
> efficient
> > > on CPU and memory usage. That means that a given system running an
> MV
> > > environment is triple the speed of a "Big Three" database even when
> > you
> > > ignore search speed.
> > >     Also, since Datastage is one of the best data warehousing
> systems
> > in
> > > the world (and it has a common ancestry to the U2 technology), you
> can
> > > be assured that MV environments make excellent data marts, data
> > > warehouses, and data repositories. Informix bought the U2 technology
> > > just to get Datastage.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >      Sincerely,
> > >           Charles Barouch
> > >           www.KeyAlly.com
> > >           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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