This is what I meant ... TYPO

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Machine: 950 MHZ Athlon
Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
Records: 20 Million
Indexes: NO
Search Column: First Name
Search Type: Wild Card (*)
Search Time: 2 Seconds
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Machine: QUAD Processor Box (4 GHZ)
Database: UV Version 10.1
Records: 500,000
Indexes: YES
Search Column: First Name
Search Type: Wild Card
Search Time: 15 - 20 Seconds

PICK = A FLAVOR of BASIC...Sometimes called PICK BASIC OR UV BASIC.
Call it whatever you want.

JOE


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:55 PM
> To: U2 Users Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Perhaps you could share your actual searches, code and database
> structure? Were you searching 20 million records in a single column
> table? Multiple "fields (or columns if you insist)" in the Universe
> database? What is this PICK you keep talking about? Universe doesn't
> have a component named PICK, there is certainly a flavour. That is
your
> choice to use it, you are not compelled to.
> 
> How do we know you are comparing apples with apples? How were your
> indexes structured? I haven't seen "Universe Standards" for indexing.
> Please elucidate on this as I am obviously ignorant in this area.
> Unfortunately your claims are now starting to fluctuate between the
> fantastic and the ludicrous. How can you expect to be taken seriously
> when you don't provide a sound basis for your argument?
> 
> I presume you meant the first database to be Universe? Obviously it
must
> be as it was the fast one 8-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Logan
> Database Administrator
> HP Managed Services
> 139 Frome Street,
> Adelaide 5000
> Australia
> 
> +61 8 8408 4273
> +61 417 268 665
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Joe Eugene
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 11:17 AM
> To: U2 Users Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> 
> 
> Charles,
> 
> Our Customer Information is stored in UV and accessed via PICK.
> This FILE (as UV ppl call it) contains around 500,000 Records in it.
> Everything is INDEXED Per UV Standards.
> 
> Here is simple WILD CARD Search Test.
> 
> RESULTS
> 
> Machine: 950 MHZ Athlon
> Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
> Records: 20 Million
> Indexes: NO
> Search Time: 2 Seconds
> 
> ----------------------
> 
> Machine: QUAD Processor Box (4 GHZ)
> Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K
> Records: 500,000
> Indexes: YES
> Search Time: 15 - 20 Seconds
> 
> I had to Increase the Time out on application servers to support
MR.SLOW
> UV!
> 
> How do you think I am supposed to believe UV Performs Well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Eugene
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Results
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:06 PM
> > To: U2 Users Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
> >
> > Joe,
> >     Here's a few things to consider. MV environments (including
> > UniVerse), allow for small teams to develop and adjust business
rules
> > more quickly than you can you can in Oracle, Sybase, or Informix.
> > Published statistics show that MV environments are roughly twice as
> > efficient in disk usage (smaller footprint means faster searches -
> > forget the 'who cares, disk is cheap' argument, search speed is
always
> a
> > premium issue). MV environments are typically three times as
efficient
> > on CPU and memory usage. That means that a given system running an
MV
> > environment is triple the speed of a "Big Three" database even when
> you
> > ignore search speed.
> >     Also, since Datastage is one of the best data warehousing
systems
> in
> > the world (and it has a common ancestry to the U2 technology), you
can
> > be assured that MV environments make excellent data marts, data
> > warehouses, and data repositories. Informix bought the U2 technology
> > just to get Datastage.
> >
> > --
> >
> >      Sincerely,
> >           Charles Barouch
> >           www.KeyAlly.com
> >           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
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