There seems to be much confusion here. Let me take a shot at straightening it out:
1. The U2 lists have been run by Clif Oliver for a very long time. Clif has no direct ties to IBM or any of the companies who owned the U2 products before hand. 2. Clif has been running the lists on his own time; a very big undertaking. I think we are all very grateful to Clif for doing such an excellent job at this task for so long (I know I certainly am!) 3. Clif's decision to stop running the lists is his own. It was not a decision of U2UG or IBM - it was Clif's decision; a decision that is well within his rights (see #2 above). 4. One reason Clif decided to stop running the lists is that U2UG is moving toward filling the same need. Clif was looking at duplicate work coming along and decided that this was a good time to get out (if I read Clif's intentions correctly). 5. U2UG, which has no DIRECT ties to IBM either, is a nascent users' organization with plans to represent the interests of the U2 community with IBM. We're just now getting off the ground. We have our third or fourth meeting coming up tomorrow night. 6. The U2UG web site has U2 fora as the means of communication, something which people have been asking for for a long time. The decision to start the fora was made when the lists were also available so it was then considered as something in addition to, not instead of, the lists. 7. As Clif is pulling out of running the lists, the fora become the only game in town. But this is not the end of the world. There exists the possibility that mail lists can continue with someone else running them. 8. The MAJOR topic of discussion at tomorrow's U2UG board meeting will be the future of U2 communication technology. Clif is expected to be present at the meeting and will probably be willing to share his accumulated wisdom in this area, provided we don't provoke him too much in our ongoing discussions of the past, present and future of communication in the U2 community. Dana Baron System Manager Smugglers' Notch Resort -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
