Sorry I asked. Phil
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Adair Winter <[email protected]> wrote: > hehe > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> -.- >> >> >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Adair Winter" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:30:23 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >> >> Chris, we all make mistakes. ignore Mike. (: >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I apologize everyone, I didn't realize searching the list archives for >>> any related or similar discussion that Mr. Hammett had participated in was >>> required before replying to a message that caught my attention. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> We have this same thread nearly every week, so yes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:17:24 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> >>>> Wow Mike was that really necessary? How rude.... >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is impossible to provide a firm date when the FCC is at the helm. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, other vendors appear to be better at it, but maybe they started >>>>> much earlier than we believe they did. Then again, maybe they are better. >>>>> With something so opaque as the FCC DFS certification process, we'll never >>>>> know. >>>>> >>>>> SO. JUST. SHUT. UP. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Find enough people that want DFS gear right now and approach a vendor >>>>> willing to vouch for that many units. They don't mind making the sale, >>>>> they >>>>> mind holding onto old gear. If it's sold before they order it, kinda takes >>>>> out that risk. >>>>> >>>>> or check out the stock locator. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:44:23 PM >>>>> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>> >>>>> Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam >>>>> guys? Got a firm date you can commit to? >>>>> >>>>> My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody >>>>> wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with >>>>> half a container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a >>>>> long backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find >>>>> someone with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a >>>>> waste of time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a >>>>> random supplier and shipping it across the country. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Look, Ben and Matt are on this board. If you have a complaint, tell >>>>>> them directly and give them a chance to make it right. If they don't, >>>>>> then >>>>>> make that public. The manufacturer should be liable to defective >>>>>> products, >>>>>> no question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer, >>>>>> especially not in a small and public community like this. As for the >>>>>> DFS >>>>>> channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough >>>>>> information >>>>>> around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't >>>>>> going to happen soon. But this is a small problem compared to the cable >>>>>> and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what >>>>>> it >>>>>> was supposed to or simply fell apart. Different situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>>> >>>>>> But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and >>>>>> time to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>>>> > With the Rocket GPS, I agree. The should have publicly offered to >>>>>> buy every single unit back. I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the >>>>>> crappy >>>>>> melt in the sun cable that I have to RMA. With this situation though, >>>>>> part >>>>>> of it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the >>>>>> inefficiency of government in general. Holding an entire industry back >>>>>> for >>>>>> months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture >>>>>> us >>>>>> and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing >>>>>> this >>>>>> to happen. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Rory >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul >>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM >>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future >>>>>> promises and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without >>>>>> the >>>>>> needed features. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>>>>> >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance. The lack of any real >>>>>> answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development >>>>>> of this product line goes at,... Internally I kid with myself (only have >>>>>> jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti >>>>>> does. Each of their releases have significant updates as well. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] ) >>>>>> >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>>>> >> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>>>> >> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM >>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Tone down the hysteria guys. The FCC certifies manufacturers in >>>>>> batch. >>>>>> >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all >>>>>> their >>>>>> >> radios went to the back of the line. That included the Powerbeam. >>>>>> >> That's the delay. But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified >>>>>> >> totally sucked. I've got a bunch of them. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Rory >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >> From: [email protected] >>>>>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> >> On Behalf Of Paul >>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM >>>>>> >> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment >>>>>> of >>>>>> >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already >>>>>> >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word? >>>>>> >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much >>>>>> like >>>>>> >> a partner anymore! >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>>>> >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote: >>>>>> >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already >>>>>> bought >>>>>> >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and >>>>>> thus >>>>>> >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> ~Seth >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> >>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Adair Winter >> VP, Network Operations / Owner >> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >> C: 806.231.7180 >> http://www.amarillowireless.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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