hehe On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> -.- > > > > :-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:30:23 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 > > Chris, we all make mistakes. ignore Mike. (: > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > >> I apologize everyone, I didn't realize searching the list archives for >> any related or similar discussion that Mr. Hammett had participated in was >> required before replying to a message that caught my attention. >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >> wrote: >> >>> We have this same thread nearly every week, so yes. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:17:24 PM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>> >>> Wow Mike was that really necessary? How rude.... >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It is impossible to provide a firm date when the FCC is at the helm. >>>> >>>> Yes, other vendors appear to be better at it, but maybe they started >>>> much earlier than we believe they did. Then again, maybe they are better. >>>> With something so opaque as the FCC DFS certification process, we'll never >>>> know. >>>> >>>> SO. JUST. SHUT. UP. >>>> >>>> >>>> Find enough people that want DFS gear right now and approach a vendor >>>> willing to vouch for that many units. They don't mind making the sale, they >>>> mind holding onto old gear. If it's sold before they order it, kinda takes >>>> out that risk. >>>> >>>> or check out the stock locator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:44:23 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> >>>> Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam >>>> guys? Got a firm date you can commit to? >>>> >>>> My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody >>>> wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with >>>> half a container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a >>>> long backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find >>>> someone with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a >>>> waste of time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a >>>> random supplier and shipping it across the country. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Look, Ben and Matt are on this board. If you have a complaint, tell >>>>> them directly and give them a chance to make it right. If they don't, >>>>> then >>>>> make that public. The manufacturer should be liable to defective >>>>> products, >>>>> no question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer, >>>>> especially not in a small and public community like this. As for the DFS >>>>> channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information >>>>> around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't >>>>> going to happen soon. But this is a small problem compared to the cable >>>>> and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it >>>>> was supposed to or simply fell apart. Different situation. >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: >>>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM >>>>> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>> >>>>> But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and >>>>> time to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>>> > With the Rocket GPS, I agree. The should have publicly offered to >>>>> buy every single unit back. I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy >>>>> melt in the sun cable that I have to RMA. With this situation though, >>>>> part >>>>> of it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the >>>>> inefficiency of government in general. Holding an entire industry back >>>>> for >>>>> months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us >>>>> and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this >>>>> to happen. >>>>> > >>>>> > Rory >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: >>>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul >>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM >>>>> > To: ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>> > >>>>> > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future >>>>> promises and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without >>>>> the >>>>> needed features. >>>>> > >>>>> > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>>>> >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance. The lack of any real >>>>> answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development >>>>> of this product line goes at,... Internally I kid with myself (only have >>>>> jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti >>>>> does. Each of their releases have significant updates as well. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) >>>>> >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>>> >> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>>> >> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>>> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Tone down the hysteria guys. The FCC certifies manufacturers in >>>>> batch. >>>>> >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all >>>>> their >>>>> >> radios went to the back of the line. That included the Powerbeam. >>>>> >> That's the delay. But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified >>>>> >> totally sucked. I've got a bunch of them. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Rory >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >>>>> >> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> >> On Behalf Of Paul >>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM >>>>> >> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of >>>>> >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already >>>>> >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word? >>>>> >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much >>>>> like >>>>> >> a partner anymore! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>>> >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote: >>>>> >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already >>>>> bought >>>>> >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and >>>>> thus >>>>> >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> ~Seth >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net
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