I apologize everyone, I didn't realize searching the list archives for any
related or similar discussion that Mr. Hammett had participated in was
required before replying to a message that caught my attention.

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We have this same thread nearly every week, so yes.
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:17:24 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>
> Wow Mike was that really necessary? How rude....
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It is impossible to provide a firm date when the FCC is at the helm.
>>
>> Yes, other vendors appear to be better at it, but maybe they started much
>> earlier than we believe they did. Then again, maybe they are better. With
>> something so opaque as the FCC DFS certification process, we'll never know.
>>
>> SO. JUST. SHUT. UP.
>>
>>
>> Find enough people that want DFS gear right now and approach a vendor
>> willing to vouch for that many units. They don't mind making the sale, they
>> mind holding onto old gear. If it's sold before they order it, kinda takes
>> out that risk.
>>
>> or check out the stock locator.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:44:23 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>
>> Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam guys?
>> Got a firm date you can commit to?
>>
>> My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody wants
>> to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a
>> container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long
>> backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone
>> with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of
>> time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random
>> supplier and shipping it across the country.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a complaint, tell
>>> them directly and give them a chance to make it right.  If they don't, then
>>> make that public.  The manufacturer should be liable to defective products,
>>> no question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer,
>>> especially not in a small and public community like this.   As for the DFS
>>> channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information
>>> around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't
>>> going to happen soon.  But this is a small problem compared to the cable
>>> and Rocket GPS.  In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it
>>> was supposed to or simply fell apart.  Different situation.
>>>
>>>  Rory
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On Behalf Of Paul
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>>
>>> But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time
>>> to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>> > With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly offered to buy
>>> every single unit back.  I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt
>>> in the sun cable that I have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of
>>> it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the
>>> inefficiency of government in general.  Holding an entire industry back for
>>> months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us
>>> and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this
>>> to happen.
>>> >
>>> > Rory
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul
>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>> >
>>> > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises
>>> and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed
>>> features.
>>> >
>>> > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>>> >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance.  The lack of any real
>>> answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development
>>> of this product line goes at,...  Internally I kid with myself (only have
>>> jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti
>>> does.  Each of their releases have significant updates as well.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] )
>>> >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>> >> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> >> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]>
>>> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>> >>
>>> >> Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC certifies manufacturers in
>>> batch.
>>> >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all their
>>> >> radios went to the back of the line.  That included the Powerbeam.
>>> >> That's the delay.  But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified
>>> >> totally sucked.  I've got a bunch of them.
>>> >>
>>> >> Rory
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: [email protected]
>>> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> >> On Behalf Of Paul
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM
>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>> >>
>>> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of
>>> >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already
>>> >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word?
>>> >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much like
>>> >> a partner anymore!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
>>> >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought
>>> >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and thus
>>> >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ~Seth
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