Hate to say it, but I agree with this.
I know it's not popular and all the guys who sell cameras and phone and
whatever else kick and scream.. but whatever..
I think UBNT should be WAY further down the road than they are now. So
either these "extra" products distracted them..
Or they really are more like apply than I thought. That carrot is out
there, but you'll get it when they are good an ready. because there is a
lot more money is selling something over, and over and over...

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:

>  NO they should have been concentrating on the core equipment instead of
> making half ass attempts into video, home automation, core  switches,
> wireless toliet lid openers and
> what ever else distracted them from getting the job done like the other
> manufacturers.
>
>
>
> On 11/2/2014 8:47 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> It is impossible to provide a firm date when the FCC is at the helm.
>
> Yes, other vendors appear to be better at it, but maybe they started much
> earlier than we believe they did. Then again, maybe they are better. With
> something so opaque as the FCC DFS certification process, we'll never know.
>
> SO. JUST. SHUT. UP.
>
>
> Find enough people that want DFS gear right now and approach a vendor
> willing to vouch for that many units. They don't mind making the sale, they
> mind holding onto old gear. If it's sold before they order it, kinda takes
> out that risk.
>
> or check out the stock locator.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:44:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>
>  Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam
> guys? Got a firm date you can commit to?
>
>  My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody wants
> to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a
> container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long
> backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone
> with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of
> time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random
> supplier and shipping it across the country.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a complaint, tell them
>> directly and give them a chance to make it right.  If they don't, then make
>> that public.  The manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no
>> question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer,
>> especially not in a small and public community like this.   As for the DFS
>> channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information
>> around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't
>> going to happen soon.  But this is a small problem compared to the cable
>> and Rocket GPS.  In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it
>> was supposed to or simply fell apart.  Different situation.
>>
>>  Rory
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Paul
>>  Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>>
>> But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time
>> to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use.
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>> > With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly offered to buy
>> every single unit back.  I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt
>> in the sun cable that I have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of
>> it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the
>> inefficiency of government in general.  Holding an entire industry back for
>> months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us
>> and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this
>> to happen.
>> >
>> > Rory
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Paul
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>> >
>> > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises
>> and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed
>> features.
>> >
>> > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>> >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance.  The lack of any real answers
>> from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development of this
>> product line goes at,...  Internally I kid with myself (only have jokingly)
>> that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti does.  Each
>> of their releases have significant updates as well.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] )
>> >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> >> (920) 452-0455 <%28920%29%20452-0455> – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> >> (888) 489-9995 <%28888%29%20489-9995> – Other areas, toll-free
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]>
>> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>> >>
>> >> Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC certifies manufacturers in batch.
>> >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all their
>> >> radios went to the back of the line.  That included the Powerbeam.
>> >> That's the delay.  But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified
>> >> totally sucked.  I've got a bunch of them.
>> >>
>> >> Rory
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> On Behalf Of Paul
>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
>> >>
>> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of
>> >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already
>> >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word?
>> >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much like
>> >> a partner anymore!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
>> >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought
>> >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems?
>> >>>>
>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and thus
>> >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example.
>> >>>
>> >>> ~Seth
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