Chris, we all make mistakes. ignore Mike. (: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
> I apologize everyone, I didn't realize searching the list archives for any > related or similar discussion that Mr. Hammett had participated in was > required before replying to a message that caught my attention. > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> We have this same thread nearly every week, so yes. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:17:24 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >> >> Wow Mike was that really necessary? How rude.... >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It is impossible to provide a firm date when the FCC is at the helm. >>> >>> Yes, other vendors appear to be better at it, but maybe they started >>> much earlier than we believe they did. Then again, maybe they are better. >>> With something so opaque as the FCC DFS certification process, we'll never >>> know. >>> >>> SO. JUST. SHUT. UP. >>> >>> >>> Find enough people that want DFS gear right now and approach a vendor >>> willing to vouch for that many units. They don't mind making the sale, they >>> mind holding onto old gear. If it's sold before they order it, kinda takes >>> out that risk. >>> >>> or check out the stock locator. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:44:23 PM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>> >>> Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam >>> guys? Got a firm date you can commit to? >>> >>> My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody wants >>> to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a >>> container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long >>> backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone >>> with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of >>> time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random >>> supplier and shipping it across the country. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Look, Ben and Matt are on this board. If you have a complaint, tell >>>> them directly and give them a chance to make it right. If they don't, then >>>> make that public. The manufacturer should be liable to defective products, >>>> no question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer, >>>> especially not in a small and public community like this. As for the DFS >>>> channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information >>>> around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't >>>> going to happen soon. But this is a small problem compared to the cable >>>> and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it >>>> was supposed to or simply fell apart. Different situation. >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of Paul >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> >>>> But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time >>>> to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>> > With the Rocket GPS, I agree. The should have publicly offered to >>>> buy every single unit back. I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy >>>> melt in the sun cable that I have to RMA. With this situation though, part >>>> of it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the >>>> inefficiency of government in general. Holding an entire industry back for >>>> months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us >>>> and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this >>>> to happen. >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul >>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> > >>>> > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises >>>> and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed >>>> features. >>>> > >>>> > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>>> >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance. The lack of any real >>>> answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development >>>> of this product line goes at,... Internally I kid with myself (only have >>>> jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti >>>> does. Each of their releases have significant updates as well. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] ) >>>> >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>>> >> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>>> >> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >>>> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> >> >>>> >> Tone down the hysteria guys. The FCC certifies manufacturers in >>>> batch. >>>> >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all >>>> their >>>> >> radios went to the back of the line. That included the Powerbeam. >>>> >> That's the delay. But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified >>>> >> totally sucked. I've got a bunch of them. >>>> >> >>>> >> Rory >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: [email protected] >>>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >> On Behalf Of Paul >>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM >>>> >> To: [email protected] >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >>>> >> >>>> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of >>>> >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already >>>> >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word? >>>> >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much like >>>> >> a partner anymore! >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>> >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought >>>> >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and >>>> thus >>>> >>> a risk of such a situation. 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