How about changing the Ethernet cable or re-crimping connectors? Since this is 
on 2.4 GHz I would check to see how many Bluetooth devices they may be using 
especially speakers and such. That frequency hops the band and if enough 
devices are all hopping around it might be enough to mess with your radio. The 
hopping sequences are probably too fast to show up on airview. Other ideas to 
check are things like local transmitters on other RF frequencies. Ham radio 
operator, business band radio, volunteer firefighter with a radio? One other 
possible source could be an old cordless phone or two, they have been used on 
both the 900 and 2.4 GHz bands. Locate them all and replace them with DECT 6.0 
phones, those are on their own dedicated 1.8 GHz spectrum. Even one they don’t 
use in another room will broadcast when the phone rings. Unless you were there 
as its ringing you would not see it on airview either.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:26 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

 

Do you have a network monitor that confirms this or is it just hearsay from the 
customer? Also, have you checked power?

 

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jan Van Kort <[email protected]> wrote:

Tower is in plain view, no obstructions, is set to 2412Mhz, 20Mhz bw at less 
than 3 miles away.  Tower is a rocketM2 with a 120degree sector antenna 
am-2g15-120.  There are 24 users connected.  Problem first started showing up 
when there were maybe 5 users over 2 years ago.  There is only 1 user with this 
problem and there are at least 6 users within easy sight of this 1 user who 
have no problems.  Problem seems to be specific to this one location, I suspect 
it has something to do with pump-motors as they turn on at random times and 
there are several in the nearby area.  How do I prove the problem?  Anybody 
know what kind of test equipment would spot motor and/or power noise?  An old 
black and white TV used to be pretty useful at picking up un-grounded 
motor-noise, I don't have one and we don't have a tv station that broadcasts 
something an old-tv would even tune to.

The one-time I saw the problem while I was there and airview showed nothing 
useful.  Channel 1 and 11 were empty, actually all the channels were empty when 
there should have been something.  I don't know what could essentially block 
signal, which is kind of what I saw.

 

On 2017-12-06 01:33 PM, Mitch wrote:

Does this site have Perfectly clear line of site? What is the tower AP?

If clear line of site and V/H AP try setting the CPE to the Horizontal and see 
if that clears it up

This has worked a few times for me

If not you may need to rent an Anritzu and set it to record for a few days to 
see what the 

interference is

 

Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell

 

On 12/6/2017 2:39 PM, Jan Van Kort wrote:

I think I've tried everything mentioned at least once.  I moved it to a NSM900 
Loco for awhile from a different tower.  I've had NSM2, NSM2Loco, AirGridM2 and 
AirGridM2HP and NanoBeamM2, Maybe next try a PowerbeamM2-400?  Don't have an M5 
tower near here yet.  Client uses an Air-Router set to channel 6.  Everything 
in large house uses channel 6 to talk to Air-Router.  Have changed the Router 
to Gateways and even other brands.  Always the same intermittent problem with 
connecting to internet.  

Presently, channel width is 20Mhz (everyone gets this setting via tower) on 
channel #1 (2412Mhz) signal is: -59 and using an airgridM2HP.  PWDOG set to 
tower IP 300 seconds.

FYI--I've had this problem for 2 years.  Couldn't resolve it and stopped 
service.  Customer wants our service and wants problem resolved.  

 

 

On 2017-12-06 10:57 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC wrote:

Two things I've done when experiencing odd issues at one site that worked for 
me.

 

1.  Check customer router settings.   Reduce channel width to 20 mhz  on both 
2.4 and 5 only and set channels to ones you don't use. I've had some customer 
routers blasting at 40 or 80 mhz channel width.  Once I reduced, both my radio 
stats and their experience improved. I've had this on multiple customers.  Not 
sure why default is 80mhz channel width.

 

2.  Redirect the dish to change the signal strength.  I had a similar case and 
as last resort I made the signal worse and it worked.  Was in mid 50's and 
moved to low to mid 60's and issue disappeared.  I even tried turning the power 
down due to the strong signal and still didn't work till I moved the dish.

 

Somebody on here, mentioned during my similar interferemce issue, that 
something could be facing this one dish that is new in the area and the direct 
inference is impacting the service.  It worked and no idea what it was picking 
up.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Troy Gibson

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Jan Van Kort  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]> 

Date: 12/6/17 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source 

 

It's just the one customer.  Neighbors to each side are just fine.  Neighbors 
are about 1/4 mile away on same hillside in quasi-rural area.  There are no 
other WISPs in area, no airFiber that I've found.  AirView shows nothing worth 
getting excited about when problem isn't happening, when problem is happening 
Airview is not accessible as unit is not responding.  Rarely has problem 
occurred while I'm on the premises and goes away before I can zero in on it.   
I'm suspecting large pumps, old transformers, bad neutral?  How to prove and 
stop wasting time and money on one customer?  Pulling hair time!

 

On 2017-12-06 09:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Spectrum Analyzer and AirView both show real noise. 

 

You said you changed bands at the customer site, are there other customers on 
those APs that are having issues or is it this one guy?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Phil Curnutt <[email protected]> wrote:

I have on two occasions tried to cross the path of an AirFiber5 and had the 
signal completely blocked.  Like Rory said they don't show up on Site Surveys 
or noise figures, but are very apparent in AirView. 

 

Phil

 

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

Could still be noise.  Canopy and AFx equipment won't show up in the noise 
figures.

Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

Have a client that is difficult to login to at times, service for them seems to 
quit.  Has good signal strength.  Have changed the radio to different models 
and frequencies and connected to different towers. It's like some kind of 
barrier at random times is erected between house and tower.  Site survey and 
spectrum analyzer never show anything remotely definitive as to possible cause 
or source of trouble.  Could problem be noisy electrical transformers or well 
pumps and what low-cost equipment  would I need to find it?

--

J

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