Tower is in plain view, no obstructions, is set to 2412Mhz, 20Mhz bw at less than 3 miles away.  Tower is a rocketM2 with a 120degree sector antenna am-2g15-120.  There are 24 users connected.  Problem first started showing up when there were maybe 5 users over 2 years ago.  There is only 1 user with this problem and there are at least 6 users within easy sight of this 1 user who have no problems.  Problem seems to be specific to this one location, I suspect it has something to do with pump-motors as they turn on at random times and there are several in the nearby area.  How do I prove the problem?  Anybody know what kind of test equipment would spot motor and/or power noise?  An old black and white TV used to be pretty useful at picking up un-grounded motor-noise, I don't have one and we don't have a tv station that broadcasts something an old-tv would even tune to.

The one-time I saw the problem while I was there and airview showed nothing useful.  Channel 1 and 11 were empty, actually all the channels were empty when there should have been something.  I don't know what could essentially block signal, which is kind of what I saw.


On 2017-12-06 01:33 PM, Mitch wrote:

Does this site have Perfectly clear line of site? What is the tower AP?

If clear line of site and V/H AP try setting the CPE to the Horizontal and see if that clears it up

This has worked a few times for me

If not you may need to rent an Anritzu and set it to record for a few days to see what the

interference is


Mitch Koep

218-851-8689 cell


On 12/6/2017 2:39 PM, Jan Van Kort wrote:

I think I've tried everything mentioned at least once.  I moved it to a NSM900 Loco for awhile from a different tower. I've had NSM2, NSM2Loco, AirGridM2 and AirGridM2HP and NanoBeamM2, Maybe next try a PowerbeamM2-400?  Don't have an M5 tower near here yet.  Client uses an Air-Router set to channel 6.  Everything in large house uses channel 6 to talk to Air-Router.  Have changed the Router to Gateways and even other brands.  Always the same intermittent problem with connecting to internet.

Presently, channel width is 20Mhz (everyone gets this setting via tower) on channel #1 (2412Mhz) signal is: -59 and using an airgridM2HP.  PWDOG set to tower IP 300 seconds.

FYI--I've had this problem for 2 years.  Couldn't resolve it and stopped service.  Customer wants our service and wants problem resolved.



On 2017-12-06 10:57 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC wrote:
Two things I've done when experiencing odd issues at one site that worked for me.

1.  Check customer router settings.   Reduce channel width to 20 mhz  on both 2.4 and 5 only and set channels to ones you don't use. I've had some customer routers blasting at 40 or 80 mhz channel width.  Once I reduced, both my radio stats and their experience improved. I've had this on multiple customers.  Not sure why default is 80mhz channel width.

2.  Redirect the dish to change the signal strength.  I had a similar case and as last resort I made the signal worse and it worked.  Was in mid 50's and moved to low to mid 60's and issue disappeared.  I even tried turning the power down due to the strong signal and still didn't work till I moved the dish.

Somebody on here, mentioned during my similar interferemce issue, that something could be facing this one dish that is new in the area and the direct inference is impacting the service.  It worked and no idea what it was picking up.

Hope that helps.

Troy Gibson

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-------- Original message --------
From: Jan Van Kort <[email protected]>
Date: 12/6/17 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

It's just the one customer.  Neighbors to each side are just fine.  Neighbors are about 1/4 mile away on same hillside in quasi-rural area.  There are no other WISPs in area, no airFiber that I've found.  AirView shows nothing worth getting excited about when problem isn't happening, when problem is happening Airview is not accessible as unit is not responding.  Rarely has problem occurred while I'm on the premises and goes away before I can zero in on it.   I'm suspecting large pumps, old transformers, bad neutral?  How to prove and stop wasting time and money on one customer? Pulling hair time!


On 2017-12-06 09:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Spectrum Analyzer and AirView both show real noise.

You said you changed bands at the customer site, are there other customers on those APs that are having issues or is it this one guy?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Phil Curnutt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I have on two occasions tried to cross the path of an AirFiber5
    and had the signal completely blocked.  Like Rory said they
    don't show up on Site Surveys or noise figures, but are very
    apparent in AirView.

    Phil

    On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Could still be noise.  Canopy and AFx equipment won't show
        up in the noise figures.

        Rory

        -----Original Message-----
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        [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
        Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM
        To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source

        Have a client that is difficult to login to at times,
        service for them seems to quit. Has good signal strength. 
        Have changed the radio to different models and frequencies
        and connected to different towers. It's like some kind of
        barrier at random times is erected between house and
        tower.  Site survey and spectrum analyzer never show
        anything remotely definitive as to possible cause or source
        of trouble.  Could problem be noisy electrical transformers
        or well pumps and what low-cost equipment  would I need to
        find it?

        --

        J

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