I have a crazy idea. Why don't we solve this once and for all. Let's
make a new community: misc. This community is where these oddball
cases can be mooted and sponsored. This is also where people can
discuss new CG creation.

I volunteer to help  admin this new community, and be a voting
body/sustaining force.

This is worth pushing through the process chain, as it will make life
so much easier for others.

brian

On 6/1/07, Frank Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just my 0.02p on that one.

I'm upset and worried that OpenSolaris project creation has gone downhill
and become process-encumbered. That means especially that one needs to ask
god and the world for approval of project creation.

Keith, I suggest you try looking at sourceforge.net and create a project
there.

* Do you need to ask anyone (one or more people) whether you can ?
* Do you even need an email ?
* Is it a manual procedure to find out which projects you are
   affiliated with, and which you are contributing to ?
* How difficult is it to get mailing lists, bug tracking services,
   or webspace for your project ?

And _then_ tell me again how it works on opensolaris.org is just fine and
should be done the way it is (now).

FrankH
(p*ssed)



On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Frank Batschulat (Home) wrote:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:42:47 +0200, Keith M Wesolowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:34:05PM +0200, Frank Batschulat (Home) wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "voting members"
>>> and "sponsoring" that is being asked for ?
>>
>> See
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2007-April/000414.html.
>>
>>> Fwiw, strictly speaking, there is no UFS group anymore as UFS is
>>> in sustaining mode.
>>
>> The source of funding for UFS within Sun is irrelevant; I was
>> referring here to the UFS Community Group that's part of OpenSolaris.
>> This Community Group has a single "leader" (which should really be
>> called "web page editor") and has made no Core Contributor Grants
>> according to poll.opensolaris.org.  Therefore the Community Group
>> cannot possibly have voted (using lazy approval, consensus, or any
>> other method) to approve this project proposal.  And in fact it's
>> defunct according to the OpenSolaris Constitution.
>>
>> I realise the UFS Community Group is contemplating merger with some
>> other Community Groups.  I don't want to get in the way of that, if
>> it's what everyone agrees should happen.  But this might be a good
>> time to get together and agree on at least 3 Core Contributors who can
>> make decisions for this Community Group going forward - including the
>> one to dissolve, if that's what you want to do.  If you would like
>> your Community Group to be recognised as active again, and able to
>> sponsor projects, please mail the OGB with a lists of the Contributors
>> and Core Contributors once you've worked out amongst yourselves who
>> those should be.
>
> Keith, I must admit I'm just baffled.
>
> I do have core contributor status in ON and btw, I am the UFS CRT advocate
> so I wonder how this group can not have at least 1 core contributor.
>
> I also do know that Frank Hofmann has core contributor status as well
> as probably Sarah as the "owner" of this community.
>
> something seems to go wrong here.
>
> thanks
> ---
> frankB
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