Akim Odong
When the army was dominated by Acholi where did you post your complaints? You
started to see that dominance when they are Westerners? That is the hypocrisy I
go after. And the last fifty years you people have been fighting with fixing
army a war you have failed, Iddi Amin left a Uganda Army well trained, well
displined, but well equipped, you not only dismantled it but you handed its
equipment to Tanzania for free. Now you are starting a discussion and you are
making the army restructuring number one again. No sir we are fade up with
fighting each other, and we have no plan attacking our neighbors, what we need
is to collect all weapons that are in Uganda and export them to countries that
are hungry for them. Let me put it this way, because so many weapons in Uganda
are out of government hands, we simply cannot know who has what weapon , so we
will start by exporting all weapons we have in the country, we will buy a new
weapon that is not in Uganda and use it to arm the military Police, then we
will turn around and hear an AK47 shot in the night and we will spend all money
to find it. Secondly all AK47s must be declared illegal in Uganda, too much
noise for our kids, at minimum those of us that have not murdered ours and
cooked them for dinner.
Instead of investing in the huge army you are selling, we need to use that
money and buy chalk to educate our kids, we need to invest into Research and
development, we have totally rotten bridges and roads, we need power supply and
communication, hospitals and you name it. That is what we will invest into than
the military. It just baffles my mind why many of you fail to realize that we
have a huge population we can make useful by investing right into it, instead
of that you are targeting to kill them over and over. Just yesterday George
Okello said that we need to use controlled violence in Uganda to stop
corruption. What a wasted mind? If violence was stopping corruption my God
Uganda would have been the least corrupt country. Acholi would have been a
region you live your car open and no one steals it. But again that kind of mind
set shows how garbage was UPC education system in Uganda, a garbage that we
need to stand up and erase. Do you have corruption in Uganda? Make Ugandans
proud of their country, invest into it and them, make people proud to love
their passport, raise that Crane and let its lame leg stand straight. When
people love their country thy defend but build it. Stop violence and stop using
violence on people but close the army barracks we no longer need them, turn
around and make them institutions of learning. Mbu I have a degree my back side.
Where do you people come from? Geez !!!!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:38 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} MBABAZI MUST EMBRACE FEDERALISM TO REMAIN RELEVANT!!!
Mulimbwa;
The issue here is federalism not Acholi; dominance and not number. I know you
have a tendency of derailing serious issues but we all know that the current
echelon of Uganda army is dominated by westerners with a token army chief in
Wamala. There is no denying that it does have effect. All those soldiers from
Luwero who joined as kadogos, but left you with unforgatable scar have long
been purged. We need this dominance to end because it is recipe for disasters
in some future. The very reason why we are drumming the federal message even
louder to avert another Amin.
Th longest beach! what longest beach?
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Akim Odong
Note that the 5,000 officers I am pleading for are replacing both the army and
Police force that is why I use a term mobile military police. It Is strange
that you call the beach issue an after issue. Most of all past governments have
been dealing with the army and they have failed. Army dominance has been done
by Acholi for a very long time, and it has not helped them either.
Who is crying with army dominance again?
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 4:15 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} MBABAZI MUST EMBRACE FEDERALISM TO REMAIN RELEVANT!!!
Mulindwa;
We need to get the foundation in place first and foremost then deal with the
longest beach issue. We need the federal foundation first and first. Whatever
number of soldiers we need will be determined after the foundation is settled.
Make no mistake, soldiers have been the soul reason for our woes and
particularly the imbalance in numbers or dominance by one group. So it is a
serious matter.
Akim
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Akim Odong
We do not need an army in Uganda. What we need is a special force with ability
to be mobile. Total force 5,000. And why? We have no time let alone resource to
fight, crate wars with in our boarders let alone to our neighbors. Uganda is a
country that can be like Switzerland in Africa. Let us get the money we put in
those forces into tourism. Do you know that Uganda has the single largest beach
in the world, think about lake Victoria all way from Eastern Uganda to Masaka,
let us build hotels on it all way through and build such a massive holiday
beach, with the weather you guys have and clean waters in Lake Victoria, some
of us want to ship girls out of here to have holidays in Uganda by full 320’s.
Cut the crap of army and fighting and raping people and killing people. Some of
us are simply too fade up with it. You are selling a new system in the country
and your pillar is again how many soldiers you will have?
Where do you people actually come from? Geez !!!!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:33 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} MBABAZI MUST EMBRACE FEDERALISM TO REMAIN RELEVANT!!!
Dr Kayondo;
In the new system, every state will contribute equal number of soldier and the
command of each forces will be within the state in peace time and the president
will only take control in times of war.
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM, 'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart
(UAH) Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
But who is the commander in chief of these forces? Yes its basic, but the
reason I asked it is to let Mr.Ssekajja know as an example that the federal
government will still have strong powers unlike what he thinks.
Eddie, MD
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To: "[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> "
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:26 AM
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Kayondo's
This is too basic. Look at the US, Germany, Australia etc.
The point about federo is that the President does not rule with a gun.
Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Jun 2015, at 02:26, "'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Mr.Ssekajja,
Who will be commander in chief of the National army in the federal government
you suggest or are you suggesting that each state will control its own portion
of the army?
Eddie, MD
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From: 'Ssekajja' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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To: "[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> "
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:05 PM
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Ndugu Ocen,
We don't want federalism of a Nigeria or South Sudan type. These are
federalisms in name, not in reality. It is no wonder that Nigeria has had
coups, counter coups and political turmoil over years. There is corruption in
Nigeria, because the federal state wields more power than the states. People
like Ummar Diko and Sani Abacha fleeced off large amounts of money, because if
their positions in a central like role. Looking at South Sudan, one sees a so
called federal state, where one man is intent on keeping power to himself, and
fighting off potential competitors.
Federalism comes in different forms, Nigeria type is no different from
centralised governments.
Ssekajja
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On 20 Jun 2015, at 15:46, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Brother Ben:
>From the years 1972 to date, Nigeria is unable to account for over $ 500
>Billion of Oil Revenue/s.
Can you please tell me how Federalism did away with that kind of grand
corruption?
Ocen
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: 'Ben Ziraba Nyende' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:35
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<mailto:[email protected]>
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How much has corruption cost Uganda? If federalism can do away with corruption
and corruptibility then that alone will pay for the change and leave a lot of
extra money!
Billions lost in ghost soldiers and other workers.
Billions lost in pension scams.
Billions lost in unneeded military hardware.
Need more billions lost to ponder about?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:41 PM, 'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Mr.Kwitonda,
Do you have any idea how much it will cost the Country to change to a
Federalism form of government? Give me an educated guess if you have never
thought about it in financial terms.
Eddie, MD
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From: john kwitonda <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: {UAH} MBABAZI MUST EMBRACE FEDERALISM TO REMAIN RELEVANT!!!
if he can come up with a comprehensive plan and what kind of federal he has,why
not ?Ugandans are yearning for it.he just needs to do some good work about it
and show how regions will benefit and red tapes h is going to do away with.if
he can shoe specifically in these areas like HEALTH, EDUCATION AND
agriculture,he can have it
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Frank Mujabi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Eddie
It could, if federo would explain how it would remedy the mess Uganda is in.
Point is though does anyone out there understand the mess
They created !
Sent from my iPhone
On 16 Jun 2015, at 20:36, "'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Would a Federalism message gather enough votes to win an election.
Eddie, MD
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From: john kwitonda <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: {UAH} MBABAZI MUST EMBRACE FEDERALISM TO REMAIN RELEVANT!!!
KATEREGGA, Im happy to know that you are now on board. you have realised that
the unitary monster is taking us nowhere.you have been an advocate of regional
tier which is very difficult to implement and still keeps power at the centre.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Ahmed Musaazi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Federalism good for Uganda and East Africa.
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