Edward It's a fair challenge I will comeback with a fuller response. Regards Neil
Sent from my iPhone On 10 Sep 2015, at 17:50, Edward Dore <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Neil, I may have missed this, so apologies if it has already been explained elsewhere, but are you able to shed any light on what the official reason is for not leaving CPs with the option of paying extra to have a BT/Openreach supplied VDSL modem with the customer facing Ethernet port as the demarcation point for the service? Surely if CPs are willing to continue to pay extra for this option over the line-only service, then it shouldn't be a problem to offer both variants of the service? The likes of Sky and TalkTalk get their reduced cost service where they can bundle their own integrated VDSL modem/router at the cost of moving the demarcation point back to the master socket similar to ADSL and smaller CPs get to keep using the BT/Openreach supplied separate VDSL modems with the demarcation point at the customer facing Ethernet port, but pay extra for doing so. Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 10 Sep 2015, at 14:59, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 10 Sep 2015, at 13:07, Gord Slater <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: But like Brandon says, that's another issue - it's the end-end+demark principle. I see this as BT Group washing their hands of things as a business tactic to raise profits on SFI visits and dodge out of fixing the faults in their plant. I can see only one winner there. What absolute codswallop. "Dodge out of fixing the faults" ?! If there is a problem and it needs fixing then we want to fix it. We want customers to be happy, I would assert we make more money having stuff that works than stuff that doesn't. In an ideal world the FTTC OR box would never have been deployed but given the lack of maturity and compatibility issues back then in VDSL chipsets it was felt that having this as part of the product was unavoidable. It's a very different world now.
