Pauli thought there was a way BTW could go ADSL to FTTC but the change of 
provider at the same time might be a customer journey we haven’t built - I’ll 
ask on Monday and let you know.


Neil
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On 7 Oct 2017, at 12:37, Paul Thornton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Afternoon all,

We have a bunch of xDSL lines with wholesale provider A, all of which are 
delivered by BTW (no unbundling).

We're migrating them in chunks to wholesale provider B.  Provider B has LLU for 
ADSL and uses BTW for FTTC.

As a result, B can provide us with FTTC anywhere and ADSL where they have 
unbundled - this is absolutely fine for us because we tend to only use FTTC.

For historical reasons, we have a couple of ADSL lines with A that are on 
exchanges that B hasn't unbundled, these need to migrate over - but that's OK 
because we want to upgrade to FTTC anyway.

When we try that, B says there is an incompatible product on the line and they 
can't do anything about that.  We need to talk to A to get it removed.  Great, 
but due to the glacial speeds at which this stuff happens, the customer ends up 
with no broadband for a week or so if we do that.

Is it really not possible to say "We wish to upgrade this ADSL service 
(ultimately provided by British Telecommunications PLC) to an FTTC service 
(ultimately provided by British Telecommunications PLC) and change wholesale 
provider at the same time"?

Ta

Paul.

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