On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 10:18, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Multicast has saved us hundreds of millions of pounds in delivering lTV

Who watches ITV :)

> which is still a substantially huge amount of traffic.

In definitive terms yes you can say hundreds of millions of pounds or
terabits of traffic, but what about relative terms? What relative
percentage of traffic and OPEX has it saved you across your core?

I'm didn't say it can't be done or that there aren't any benefits, but
things are never simple. E.g. if you ingest content from ITV via
unicast or multicast and multicast it to you STBs, the cost of the
ingestion, distribution across the network, multicast enabled BNGs,
CPEs, STBs, multicast trained staff, NOC, reporting and analytics, all
needs to cost less than the cost of plonking the required number ITV
caches around the network (because you have many other unicast caches
around the place, this isn't anything new operationally). If the
multicast solution is marginally cheaper you probably don't go for it,
but if it's way cheaper, now you have to open the jar labelled "should
we have two different solutions in operation simultaneously [multicast
ITV plus unicast whatever] to save $mega_bucks or pay the extra to
only have unicast services and reduced complexity"?

> The complexity is minimal
Agree to disagree then, finding good multicast people is hard. There
also aren't many good multicast enabled NMS's.

> The question that’s hard to answer is when does linear die? Too many of the 
> current content providers are tied to linear and will be for some time and 
> with the direction of freeing up radio spectrum multicast will have a huge 
> part in solving that problem.

But with IPv6 people are looking at mad ideas like assigning IPs
directly content, so multicast could be further sidelined with
anycast.

I won't be at UKNOF44 but I'm keen to talk more about this face to
face, UKNOF45 it shall have to be.

Cheers,
James.

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