Great! A ³community² listserv under the auspices of UCD sponsors and their sympathizers in the neighborhood. No community input permitted unless you take a pledge?
What¹ll they think of next? POWER OVER THE PEOPLE!!! On 7/29/07 9:30 AM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > This new list supported by Jon Herman has nothing to do with bad traffic. When > Cassidy and the gang were given a "free pass" on the list, they could > intimidate anyone who questioned the Penn agenda. And they did. > > When the ganging up and Cassidy¹s poor reading comprehension were exposed for > the fallacious strategies these are, the intimidation stopped being effective. > It makes sense that a brat like Cassidy would be chosen to pack up the marbles > and set up a private party. > > Jon H, Andrew Z and Penn real estate know that the issues discussed on this > listserv are one of the biggest local threats to the dishonest Penn marketing > machine. I look at the potshots taken at me by the FOCP president and vice > president (not subscribed to the list) as examples of the power of the list > and the threat to those who demand secrecy as they abuse the neighborhood. We > can¹t get the front pages of the Inky and the Public Record like Penn can > control. > > The indignant self righteous of the new list will tell you that the > "community" people don¹t all have computers as another distraction. What they > won¹t say is that the list is one of the few communication mediums that is > accessible to members of the community and can not be controlled by Penn. > Cassidy's barking cheese will be controlled by Cassidy for Cassidy's and UCD > fans. > > Cassidy is trying to show us that people with the wrong ideas will be > silenced. This is exactly what the civic associations and UCD try to do. The > community will be handpicked and controlled. > > I¹d like to thank everyone who set up the list and had the commitment to open > communication. You did a great thing for the community and support real > democracy.. You did a better thing for this community than any civic > association has ever done. > > By the way, Jon H works for one of those Penn driven marketing agencies. He is > a former colleague of Andrew Z who did not disclose his Penn real estate > connection in his good old boy opinion piece dissing West Philly protesters. > I¹m glad that Penn has the Cassidy moderated list for the UCD culture. > > All of their pot shots were distracting to a community discussion list. I hope > folks no longer feel intimidated when they wish to express themselves! > > Glenn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: David Toccafondi <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: UnivCity listserv <mailto:[email protected]> ; pfsni list >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:43 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list >> >> >> I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes >> "bad traffic" other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv for >> at least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem. I set up a >> separate email account for the lists I subscribe to so that my main account >> doesn't get overwhelmed, and I use Gmail, which does a great job of >> threading the conversations to make everything much easier to keep track of. >> When my life gets too busy, I just don't read it for a while. If a topic >> gets posted that I'm not interested in, I ignore it. If someone keeps >> being obnoxious on the list, I ignore the emails from that person. If >> there's spam (and I really haven't been aware of spam on this list), gmail >> automatically filters it into my spam folder or I just delete it. Yes, >> there are posts which I don't like, but so what? That's life, isn't! it? >> >> I think it's really useful to have a single place where everyone can post. >> Having multiple lists ultimately just waters everything down and makes it >> harder for everyone to get a clear and complete picture of what's happening >> in the neighborhood. Given that everyone who reads the list can simply >> delete or ignore what they're not interested in means that there's no reason >> this list can't be different things for different people. For some people >> it's an opportunity to discuss local politics. For others, it's a place to >> announce events. For others, it's a place to complain. I thought the idea >> was that this was essentially an online community that reflected the >> opinions and interests and needs of the physical community of West >> Philadelphia. >> >> dave >> >> >> >> On 7/28/07, B Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not the >>> only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of five >>> options: >>> >>> *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation) >>> *Migrate to psfni >>> *start an alternate group >>> *Move to a BB like Phillyblog >>> *leave things as they are >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 >> 6:01 PM >
