>  However, if it is your intent to form another list and filter and screen
> those with you dislike or disagree, I feel it is blacklisting.

I agree with you but is this what Kyle actually said was going to
happen?  I apparently missed that part of his posting.  It was my
understanding that the moderation was in regards to the overt
aggressiveness, not dissension.

Best,
Stephen



On 7/29/07, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Under normal circumstances it wouldn't.
>
>  However, if it is your intent to form another list and filter and screen
> those with you dislike or disagree, I feel it is blacklisting.
>
>  Let's add to that the active recruiting of new members and/or diverting
> existing members to the new listserv, because the UC listserv has a bunch
> of, fill in the blank: crazies, cranks, belligerent non-viable entities with
> whom you would NEVER want to communicate and the sort of people who are just
> the fringe elements and not indicative of the wants of the "real community."
>  or:
>
>  "Come to our listserv.  You'll like it much better! You don't want to join
> the UC listserv because...."
>
>  Well... I feel it's at least a form of blacklisting.
>
>
>  On 7/29/07 12:58 PM, "Dave Axler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  As for a new list, I can see some arguments on both sides.
>
>  What I can't see, though, is how "lightly moderated" is getting translated
> into having a "blacklist" -- a term
>  that's been thrown out by at least three different people so far.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 2:57 am
>  Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
>
>  I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss this
> stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list itself is a
> "place" to discuss things. It also immediately excludes anyone who can't be
> at the meeting place at the meeting time. One of the points of the listserv
> is that it's available to and includes everyone--everyone with computer
> access at least. This just seems silly.
>
>  Frankus
>  Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
>
>  On Jul 28, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Wilma de Soto wrote:
>
>
>  Hear, hear!
>
>   If the name of this new forum is as Al Krigman wrote, that says it all.
>
>   This is the by-product mentality of people who are used to arranging their
> communities as they see fit, (i.e. suburban-type developments with all the
> amenities in place.) NOW, all we have to do is find the "right kind of
> people" to share in "our little corner of Heaven."
>
>   This is a city!  You will find ALL types of people in cities and one
> should not feel threatened when their statements or opinions shatter the
> illusions of how YOU may have thought life and the world was like for
> everybody.
>
>   THEN to cap it off hide behind this, "Aren't I a wonderful person because
> I choose to live in such a diverse community!" façade.   That in particular
> is galling.
>
>   Your post is a very clear and sensible way to approach these lists and I
> thank you.
>
>
>
>
>   On 7/28/07 9:43 PM, "David Toccafondi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm surprised this is such a big deal.  And I'm not sure what constitutes
> "bad traffic" other than outright spam.  I've been reading this listserv for
> at least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem.  I set up a
> separate email account for the lists I subscribe to so that my main account
> doesn't get overwhelmed, and I use Gmail, which does a great job of
> threading the conversations to make everything much easier to keep track of.
>  When my life gets too busy, I just don't read it for a while.  If a topic
> gets posted that I'm not interested in, I ignore it.   If someone keeps
> being obnoxious on the list, I ignore the emails from that person. If
> there's spam (and I really haven't been aware of spam on this list), gmail
> automatically filters it into my spam folder or I just delete it.   Yes,
> there are posts which I don't like, but so what?  That's life, isn't! it?
>
>   I think it's really useful to have a single place where everyone can post.
>  Having multiple lists ultimately just waters everything down and makes it
> harder for everyone to get a clear and complete picture of what's happening
> in the neighborhood.  Given that everyone who reads the list can simply
> delete or ignore what they're not interested in means that there's no reason
> this list can't be different things for different people.  For some people
> it's an opportunity to discuss local politics.  For others, it's a place to
> announce events.  For others, it's a place to complain.  I thought the idea
> was that this was essentially an online community that reflected the
> opinions and interests and needs of the physical community of West
> Philadelphia.
>
>   dave
>
>
>   On 7/28/07, B Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not the
> only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of five
> options:
>
>   *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation)
>   *Migrate to psfni
>   *start an alternate group
>   *Move to a BB like Phillyblog
>   *leave things as they are
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  =
>
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