Hello. REad it yourself and interpret it for me if you will.
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000007.html On 7/29/07 4:08 PM, "Doc Baldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, if it is your intent to form another list and filter and screen >> those with you dislike or disagree, I feel it is blacklisting. > > I agree with you but is this what Kyle actually said was going to > happen? I apparently missed that part of his posting. It was my > understanding that the moderation was in regards to the overt > aggressiveness, not dissension. > > Best, > Stephen > > > > On 7/29/07, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Under normal circumstances it wouldn't. >> >> However, if it is your intent to form another list and filter and screen >> those with you dislike or disagree, I feel it is blacklisting. >> >> Let's add to that the active recruiting of new members and/or diverting >> existing members to the new listserv, because the UC listserv has a bunch >> of, fill in the blank: crazies, cranks, belligerent non-viable entities with >> whom you would NEVER want to communicate and the sort of people who are just >> the fringe elements and not indicative of the wants of the "real community." >> or: >> >> "Come to our listserv. You'll like it much better! You don't want to join >> the UC listserv because...." >> >> Well... I feel it's at least a form of blacklisting. >> >> >> On 7/29/07 12:58 PM, "Dave Axler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> As for a new list, I can see some arguments on both sides. >> >> What I can't see, though, is how "lightly moderated" is getting translated >> into having a "blacklist" -- a term >> that's been thrown out by at least three different people so far. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 2:57 am >> Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list >> >> I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss this >> stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list itself is a >> "place" to discuss things. It also immediately excludes anyone who can't be >> at the meeting place at the meeting time. One of the points of the listserv >> is that it's available to and includes everyone--everyone with computer >> access at least. This just seems silly. >> >> Frankus >> Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible. >> >> On Jul 28, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Wilma de Soto wrote: >> >> >> Hear, hear! >> >> If the name of this new forum is as Al Krigman wrote, that says it all. >> >> This is the by-product mentality of people who are used to arranging their >> communities as they see fit, (i.e. suburban-type developments with all the >> amenities in place.) NOW, all we have to do is find the "right kind of >> people" to share in "our little corner of Heaven." >> >> This is a city! You will find ALL types of people in cities and one >> should not feel threatened when their statements or opinions shatter the >> illusions of how YOU may have thought life and the world was like for >> everybody. >> >> THEN to cap it off hide behind this, "Aren't I a wonderful person because >> I choose to live in such a diverse community!" façade. That in particular >> is galling. >> >> Your post is a very clear and sensible way to approach these lists and I >> thank you. >> >> >> >> >> On 7/28/07 9:43 PM, "David Toccafondi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes >> "bad traffic" other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv for >> at least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem. I set up a >> separate email account for the lists I subscribe to so that my main account >> doesn't get overwhelmed, and I use Gmail, which does a great job of >> threading the conversations to make everything much easier to keep track of. >> When my life gets too busy, I just don't read it for a while. If a topic >> gets posted that I'm not interested in, I ignore it. If someone keeps >> being obnoxious on the list, I ignore the emails from that person. If >> there's spam (and I really haven't been aware of spam on this list), gmail >> automatically filters it into my spam folder or I just delete it. Yes, >> there are posts which I don't like, but so what? That's life, isn't! it? >> >> I think it's really useful to have a single place where everyone can post. >> Having multiple lists ultimately just waters everything down and makes it >> harder for everyone to get a clear and complete picture of what's happening >> in the neighborhood. Given that everyone who reads the list can simply >> delete or ignore what they're not interested in means that there's no reason >> this list can't be different things for different people. For some people >> it's an opportunity to discuss local politics. For others, it's a place to >> announce events. For others, it's a place to complain. I thought the idea >> was that this was essentially an online community that reflected the >> opinions and interests and needs of the physical community of West >> Philadelphia. >> >> dave >> >> >> On 7/28/07, B Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not the >> only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of five >> options: >> >> *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation) >> *Migrate to psfni >> *start an alternate group >> *Move to a BB like Phillyblog >> *leave things as they are >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> = >> >> ________________________________ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from >> AOL at AOL.com >> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000437> . >> >> >> > ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
