BAH. Ripoff!

-$75 for a 12-port HUB (I could even probably get you a used one like I 
have for about $40, switches are better anyway)
-And the Laser Printer is just about useless under OSX (Uses quickdraw, 
NOT postscript, also is serial printer, you need USB, AppleTalk, or 
Ethernet to use one in OSX)
-The ISDN modem is a bonus though.....
-Once you have gotten use to the larger monitor, the 15" will drive you 
nuts, although it would be perfectly useable for day to day tasks, but 
most websites are made for 800x600 or higher resolutions

If you can talk the guy down, It is a great machine, especially if you 
like to get your hands dirty and play around with hardware (kind of 
like beefing up an old Chevy with a 350 engine in it;)

Right now you could get a decent upgrade to a G3 (required for Jaguar, 
most needed for 10.1) for under $100 from OtherWorldComputing (OWC) 
<www.macsales.com> I just ordered mine yesterday for a grand total of 
$89.something Throw in at least another 128MB stick of RAM (about $30 
from OWC) The HD may be kind of cramped, but useable, especially if 
that second drive is worthwhile.

OSX does require a hack to work on these (what are commonly known as 
OldWorld) machines. It is a free download from OWC as well. 
QuartzExtreme doesn't work unless you have a supported card (OpenGL 
32MB+ and AGP), since these have PCI only, not AGP, one again a hack is 
required to allow you to use a PCI card with this, results vary. A ATI 
Radeon 7000 is about the best you can get, and they are only about 
$90-$120

Tim is kind of right, you could get a G3 or G4 for not much more 
(probably about the same for what this guy is wanting to charge you) 
However, if you are like me and enjoy kind of living on the edge, try 
talking him down, you could probably get a very good machine out of 
this for around $400-$500 for the CPU, add on for the HUB and monitor.

My longwinded blah blah blah blah has ended, you may all now go in 
peace...

-Robyn (Jeez I'm doing a lot of typing today) Lyons

On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 06:10 AM, Tim Maloney wrote:

> Too expensive IMHO. I got a G4 tower on ebay for 645.00 US.
> You can run Jaguar stock on that box but it could be a little slow and
> Quartz Extreme would not function.
> At the very least you could do a B&W G3 tower for that. The 9600 is a 
> nice
> box and with some work would run Jaguar nicely, but starting out at 
> 590.00
> you would have to put too much into it. About 300.00 at least for the 
> G3
> upgrade, ram, IDE card & drive, etc. and what is the video card in it? 
> I'd
> say 16 or above is good. Does it have that? If not, more money.
>
>
> Might as well get a G4 tower with AGP for 650.00 to 800.00 range. At 
> the top
> of that range, you probably wouldn't need to put anything into it.
>
> Id you can get the 9600 for like 350.00 - 400.00, maybe then.
>
> On 9/17/02 6:05 AM, "Jean-Marc Melchior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>> I'm a PC User, but I want to switch to the Macintosh Platform, in the
>> beginning I wanted to buy a brand new G4 iMac, but now as searching 
>> the
>> classifieds, I found an excellent offer, or thats what I think it is:
>>
>> It's a Mac 9600
>> 128 Mb Ram
>> 4 Gb Stock HD and an additional SCSI HD with unknown size
>> Stock 15' Monitor
>> modem ISDN Sagem, which fits me, as I only have ISDN in my workplace
>> Apple Laser printer 300
>> hub Ethernet 12 port
>> Price: 590 $
>>
>> 1) Is it a fair price?
>> 2) What upgrades do I need to run Jaguar?
>> 3) Upgrades to run Jaguar with Quartz Extreme?
>> 4) Until now I always worked on a cheap 17" Monitor, do myou think 
>> the 15"
>> would be acceptable
>> 5) Running OS 9 or even 8 would I be able to run the iApplications, 
>> which are
>> one of the reasons for swichting to the Mac. I will absolutely buy a
>> USB/Firewire Adapter to connect my camera and camcorder.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Melchior Jean-Marc


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