At 3:04pm -0400 on Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Casey Dahlin wrote: > Kevin Hunter wrote: >> At 4:29am -0400 on Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Scott Remnant wrote: >>> I'm developing the next version of Upstart largely in private at the >>> moment, so you won't find it on Launchpad. >> >> This ran across my desk this afternoon. I was reminded of this email >> from a couple of weeks ago. (Thank goodness for web archives of email >> discussions!) >> >> http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#avoid-private-discussions >> >> Food for thought ...
> +1 One more for posterity. > > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1595 Oh gosh. No offense intended, but I much prefer the producingoss text over the two blogs in question. The former is a cohesive and well-reasoned rhetoric for entire-process openness, while the latter two are more passive-aggressive and whiny. Like it or not, this *is* open source software, meaning that however the primary developers want to do it is how it will be done. Whining doesn't help, and, in fact, usually hinders the process. Open source is as much about the community as it is the final product. I am entirely with you on the notion that the project would be better off if it were developed completely openly. But being confrontationally argumentative doesn't help persuade. In my experience, a confrontational attitude usually has the intended effect: the folks being attacked will respond in kind. I offer the producingoss text as genuine food for thought. My hope is that the development team (Scott) takes it to heart, but whether he does is, in the end, up to him. Vinegar and honey ... Either way, I thank all involved for the hard work they're giving to the community. Kevin -- upstart-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/upstart-devel
