Thanks Mark for wading in. Well, it might be the mixture of screens - in fact I think that may well be it, because I have another development configuration with a non-Retina iMac and a similar monitor to the one I’ve described, and I have never seen a problem. Sadly, that’s about 1000 km South of where I am now, where I’ve got what the Retina MacBook setup. I have had to do what I suggested in an earlier email, which is start the MacBook with the monitor unplugged, and use the Mac in its highest resolution. It’s a bit of a strain on the eyes, but at least I can work. Sure would like to have it fixed, though.
Graham > On 14 Jan 2018, at 14:58, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > I wonder if it is the mix between retina and non-retina screens which is > causing the problem. > > I notice Mattias mentioned he couldn't reproduce with two retina screens, but > both you and graham have a mixed setup? > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > P.S. There's clearly a problem here in the engine if hit testing on stacks > isn't working correctly. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Jan 2018, at 12:13, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Brian >> >> Well I tried to line up the tops of the two displays using the Mac Control >> Panel and restarted LC. This did have an interesting effect, in that the >> windows on the monitor are now accepting mouse clicks, but there is still >> some very weird stuff, in particular I have a substack with single card >> (it’s for logging). I am 100% sure that the stack is visible, and its rect >> is well within what I understand to be the available coordinates of the >> combined display, but it doesn’t show up! Changing its loc to the screenloc >> doesn’t do anything either. So there is bad stuff going on here. I’m on a >> deadline so I can’t look any further just now. Might just have time to >> restart my machine with the monitor off, but debugging on a laptop ain’t >> pretty. I suppose I could use the full retina resolution and a magnifying >> glass… annoying. >> >> Cheers >> >> Graham >> >>> On 13 Jan 2018, at 20:07, Brian Milby <br...@milby7.com> wrote: >>> >>> @Graham, to determine if the 2 are related to the same underlying issue, >>> you should adjust your monitor layout so that the tops align. If the >>> problem goes away, then they are related (even if not identical). If the >>> problem doesn’t go away, then it is a new issue. That will be something >>> that is good to know when working on this issue. >>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:24 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >>> wrote: >>> Yes, of course it’s an OS thing really. I think it’s reasonable to want the >>> Mac control panel configuration to mimic the physical arrangement I >>> actually have. If I don’t do this, I’m always trying to make the mouse go >>> somewhere which the Mac doesn’t see as part of the screen real estate. >>> Since my physical arrangement is that the monitor is higher and to the side >>> of the MacBook, that’s what I’ve set up in the control panel. The fact that >>> this gives problems has clearly got to be a bug. >>> >>> After looking carefully at the bugs Martin has listed (one of which was >>> raised by me, centuries ago!), I decided to submit a new report: it’s >>> 20867. The mother ship may find that they can combine it with 19302, but I >>> will leave that to them. >>> >>> Graham >>> >>>> On 13 Jan 2018, at 16:55, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It isn't the physical position of the monitors, it's how you arrange them >>>> in the Mac control panel. This allows you to set the virtual position of >>>> the two displays relative to each other. If I remember right, problems are >>>> avoided if you drag the two monitor images so that the tops are >>>> horizontally aligned. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>>> <mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com> >>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>>> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On January 13, 2018 8:51:59 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Martin - yes I do have a Mac Book Pro Retina, and since it’s >>>>> normally on my desk with the monitor on a stand, the monitor is above the >>>>> MacBook as you say. My search for bugs related to this didn’t turn up >>>>> anything relevant: maybe I don’t understand how to do searches for >>>>> unresolved bugs in particular areas. Anyway I missed the bugs you >>>>> mention. Obviously I will now look at them and see what I can contribute. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again >>>>> >>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Jan 2018, at 14:34, Martin Koob via use-livecode >>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have experienced problems with dual monitors attached to my Mac Book >>>>>> Pro >>>>>> Retina with LC 8 and posted bugs. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19300 >>>>>> <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19300> >>>>>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19302 >>>>>> <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19302> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are links on 19302 to other bugs I thought might be related. >>>>>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366 >>>>>> <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366> >>>>>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18363 >>>>>> <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18363> >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems the issue occurs only when the arrangement is that secondary >>>>>> external monitor is above the Mac Book Pro's monitor. If in the Display >>>>>> Preferences > arrangement I drag the secondary monitor to the side of the >>>>>> primary monitor the issues I experienced were resolved. It may also be >>>>>> an >>>>>> issue with my retina display. Do you have a Mac Book Pro Retina as well? >>>>>> >>>>>> You should post what you are seeing as a bug and reference these other >>>>>> ones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin Koob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from: >>>>>> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>>>> <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>>> <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
