PHP / (origional) JSP are the same stuff really.  Scripted web page.  Main
difference is php not OO (well, the api isnt), and php doesnt require any
declarations/typing - which makes it nicer for less able programmers.

But the big difference is server requirements.  JSP uses a lot more server
resources.  PHP can be made available on the cheapest mass virtual hosting
servers.  JSP (let alone full java web apps) cant.

Also, pretty much anyone with any programming skills can pick up php in a
couple of days. Same cant be said for e.g. Struts+Java+JSP+Servlet etc.

This is why i am forced to use php for most sites (ok, so i normally pass it
on to someone else here), and i tend to use struts for larger sites/apps
that are going to be hosted internally/on dedicated servers.

Daniel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Henry Xu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 July 2005 04:17
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
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>
> JSF has been there for a while. We have to see how it does in
> real applications.
>
> EJB has been there for many years, but its complexity of
> configuration (at least before mature tools were developed) kept
> many J2EE projects expensive and over budgets (bad ROI examples).
>
> Thus we have so many frameworks in Java. Sun is to be blamed for
> always providing UNPROVEN technologies for java. In many cases,
> following sun too closely is not wise.
>
> PHP was great but I hope java can catch up in real application.
>
> John H. Xu
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: netsql
>   To: user@struts.apache.org
>   Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
>   Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:13:05 -0500
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>   >
>   > John Public wrote:
>   > > After just finishing my JSF class, I can confidently
>   > > confirm that JSF will eventually lead to Struts
>   > > becoming OBSOLETE.
>   >
>   > :-) Enhydra and Torque would say that too circa 2001.
>   > Put up a site and lets see it.
>   >
>   > > Let's all get
>   > > behind JSF before MS takes over the web.
>   >
>   > Nothing wrong w/ C# IMO.
>   > I think PHP is "best(fast and cheap, lowest risk, most roi)" for
>   > "genric" server side rendering applications. (But then... I think
>   > the future is client side rendering )
>   > If JSF(or EJB) fails, it won't be becuase somone did not "get
>   behind it".
>   >
>   > Competition should give us best answer, and I am all for using
>   > better tech. Every few years I'd like a new tech please.
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