As I said: I'm not that a great coder, and not an expert php or java coder. Coding pure logic in java or php goes at a nice pace.
Once you are in the loop where you got a variable, object, list/map/tree of stuffs - and need that converted to something html'ish ... then for me php is far easier to do that with. Struts2 is not. And I have max 2y on-and-off hobby experience with php. Zend isn't silver bullet AS I SAID, but it's definitely easier. Notice how random coders jumps on it wagon... how many kids jumps on struts?? More or less none... Are we talking about being productive? Make stuff fast? Time to deliver? Or are we talking about something else? Let me Quote: " Some frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, speak directly to "time to market" concerns and have been gathering many followers." BECAUSE ITS EASY TO GET STUFF DONE. DON'T NEED TO BE GEEKISH or 3y+ EXPERIENCE. You even don't need college... sad really. I just stated that struts2 are not making me productive. Notice how often I say it's difficult to find and fix problems related to X. PHP + notepad++ - no debuggers or ide. No particular tools. But I get stuff done... even I'm amazed, cause look at php as a language or zend as framework - certainly not pretty. I just made a huge rant on java and struts not being productive for me. If you get exception error because of 3 words - that's your problem. Someone asked me what slowed me down - I answered. Maybe my answers is just noob errors or whatever, I don't care. I just don't think or feel I'm productive. Others here favour JSF... I don't see ppl being productive with that either. Sure it got some nice stuff I want to try, but that's pretty much it. Maybe in 5y I'm doing magic and got total different problems, but that's then. Not now. Mvh Frode T. Johansen > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Musachy Barroso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 20. juni 2008 17:14 > Til: Struts Users Mailing List > Emne: Re: [OT] What slows you down? > > I won't comment on all this, because, I am totally biased, and it is > friday after all, but here: > > "Look to php zend framework" > > that was it for me, lol. > > musachy > > Ok...I won't talk about the rest because I am obviously biased > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
