Geoff,

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo... Wish I knew this a while ago. Darn it. :-)
Anywho, better late than never.

But nevertheless, VLAN allocation is not automatic like in plain Adv Zone, the 
root admin must do that manually.

Lucian

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 20:20:59
> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query

> Sorry Nux, but YES there are Customer Specific VLANs in a Security Group 
> enabled
> Advanced Zone.
> 
> When you create an Advanced Zone with Security Groups you initially create a
> 'default guest network' and you allocate a VLAN and IP range to this network.
> This is then used by System VMs and can also be used by all Accounts.
> 
> However you can then, as a Root Admin, create additional Guest Networks using
> the 'Offering for shared security group enabled networks' and dedicate this to
> a Domain or an Account. When doing so you allocate a different VLAN for each
> additional Guest Network.
> 
> The IP range allocated to each network can be either a true Public IP range 
> OR a
> Private IP range fronted by a Router/Firewall/Load Balancer etc  but this will
> be outside of CloudStack control.
> 
> So to answer the original question it is possible to allocate a separate VLAN 
> to
> each Guest Network and if required to front this network with a Load Balancer
> and Firewall to provide additional services, but you need to manage these
> devices separately so is not a typical configuration for a Public Cloud, but
> could be used in a Private Cloud.
> 
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> 
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> ________________________________________
> From: Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro>
> Sent: 26 November 2014 10:46
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
> 
> No, in Advanced Zone with SG - just like in Basic zone - there is no per
> customer VLAN; there are no firewall, load balancer or additional NICs; there
> is also no IPv6.
> 
> A VM will just get a public IP via DHCP and that's it, the customers are
> isolated via "security groups" which is a fancy name for iptables rules.
> 
> Hope this clears it up.
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tejas Sheth" <tshet...@gmail.com>
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 10:14:11
>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
> 
>> Thanks for simplification,
>>  so it means that each account will have seprate VLAN with its own subnet
>> and those VLANs will be created and configured in physical switch?
>>
>> if architecture is above mentioned way configured then how can we achieve
>> NAT and loadbalancing?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tejas
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Geoff Higginbottom <
>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like to think of Advanced Network with SG as simply multiple Basic
>>> Networks, each on its own VLAN. You have the same features (or rather lack
>>> of) as you would with a Basic Zone, but you have multiple Guest Networks.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tejas Sheth [mailto:tshet...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 26 November 2014 09:53
>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
>>>
>>> so NAT and loadbalancers are not possible if we use security group?
>>>
>>> so it meanse there will be no internal and external IPs for VMs. is it
>>> correct?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jayapal Reddy Uradi <
>>> jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > For SG networks there is no public network.
>>> > We configure public ips for the guest network.
>>> >
>>> > -Jayapal
>>> >
>>> > On 26-Nov-2014, at 12:00 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > >
>>> > >  I have made the bridge configuration, but when i am selecting
>>> > > advance zone. it is not showing public network configuration. only
>>> > > guest and management is availabel. also internal CIDR ip
>>> > > configuration is also not available.
>>> > > i think it is cinverting to basic zone if we select security group
>>> > > and xenserver as hypervisor.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks
>>> > > Tejas
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Jayapal Reddy Uradi <
>>> > > jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> For 6.2 you no need to install CSP. My typo mistake in last mail.
>>> > >> sysctl.conf is fine.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks,
>>> > >> Jayapal
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 25-Nov-2014, at 8:45 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> So can i take it as confirmation and proceed with only following
>>> > >>> bridge configuration in xenserver 6.2?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> # xe-switch-network-backend bridge
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> # vi /etc/sysctl.conf
>>> > >>>   net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables = 1
>>> > >>>    net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables = 0
>>> > >>>     net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables = 1
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>  # sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Require confirmation for sysctl.cnf configuration part.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thanks and regards,
>>> > >>> Tejas
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Vadim Kimlaychuk <
>>> > >> vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee
>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> XenServer does not need any package to be expicitly installed.
>>> > >>>> When
>>> > you
>>> > >>>> add host to CS it copies some files to the host itself and you
>>> > >>>> don't
>>> > >> need
>>> > >>>> to bother about them usually.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Vadim.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>>> From: Tejas Sheth [mailto:tshet...@gmail.com]
>>> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> > >>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > >>>> Subject: security group and xenserver query
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Hello Jayapal,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Thanks for reply, I have understood the bridge configuration part
>>> > >>>> but can you clarify CSP package part.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> if CSP package comes with xenserver 6.2 then do we need to
>>> > >>>> install it explicitly?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> It would be really helpful if you can send link to install CSP in
>>> > >>>> xenserver 6.2 because CS 4.3 document do not have description for
>>> > >> xenserver
>>> > >>>> 6.2 CSP installation.
>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>>> Hi Tejas,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> The network mode set to 'bridge' mode.
>>> > >>>> #xe-switch-network-backend  bridge
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I think Xenserver 6.2 comes with the CSP package, so you need to
>>> > install
>>> > >>>> it explicitly.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > >>>> Jayapal
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On 25-Nov-2014, at 4:47 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> Hello,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> We are configuring advanced zone in cloudstack 4.3 in xenserver
>>> 6.2.
>>> > >>>>> we want to configure security group in advance zone. do we have
>>> > >>>>> to do any special configuration in xenserver 6.2.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> xenserver has default networking configuration.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> > >>>>> Tejas
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
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