In my defence - after checking - I always relied on the UI (stupidly) and it 
will not offer the option to specify an account. So I assumed it's not possible 
... :-(

Using the API (via cloudmonkey) did the job. i.e.

create network account=lucian domainid=0638fea4-2d33-11e4-8126-f2a3ece198a5 
displaytext=lucian displaynetwork=true name=lucian startip=10.11.12.2 
endip=10.11.12.20 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=10.11.12.1 
networkdomain=lucian.priv 
physicalnetworkid=50aeceb7-3eae-4c88-8127-b58a5a55711c 
networkofferingid=8cf9be49-8393-4a12-aca2-74110b6389ca vlan=111 
zoneid=a9521258-d7f3-4992-a1d1-a513fed003ec

Thanks, Geoff.

Lucian

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 20:54:16
> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query

> Geoff,
> 
> Nooooooooooooooooooooooo... Wish I knew this a while ago. Darn it. :-)
> Anywho, better late than never.
> 
> But nevertheless, VLAN allocation is not automatic like in plain Adv Zone, the
> root admin must do that manually.
> 
> Lucian
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 20:20:59
>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
> 
>> Sorry Nux, but YES there are Customer Specific VLANs in a Security Group 
>> enabled
>> Advanced Zone.
>> 
>> When you create an Advanced Zone with Security Groups you initially create a
>> 'default guest network' and you allocate a VLAN and IP range to this network.
>> This is then used by System VMs and can also be used by all Accounts.
>> 
>> However you can then, as a Root Admin, create additional Guest Networks using
>> the 'Offering for shared security group enabled networks' and dedicate this 
>> to
>> a Domain or an Account. When doing so you allocate a different VLAN for each
>> additional Guest Network.
>> 
>> The IP range allocated to each network can be either a true Public IP range 
>> OR a
>> Private IP range fronted by a Router/Firewall/Load Balancer etc  but this 
>> will
>> be outside of CloudStack control.
>> 
>> So to answer the original question it is possible to allocate a separate 
>> VLAN to
>> each Guest Network and if required to front this network with a Load Balancer
>> and Firewall to provide additional services, but you need to manage these
>> devices separately so is not a typical configuration for a Public Cloud, but
>> could be used in a Private Cloud.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Geoff Higginbottom
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>> 
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro>
>> Sent: 26 November 2014 10:46
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
>> 
>> No, in Advanced Zone with SG - just like in Basic zone - there is no per
>> customer VLAN; there are no firewall, load balancer or additional NICs; there
>> is also no IPv6.
>> 
>> A VM will just get a public IP via DHCP and that's it, the customers are
>> isolated via "security groups" which is a fancy name for iptables rules.
>> 
>> Hope this clears it up.
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tejas Sheth" <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 10:14:11
>>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
>> 
>>> Thanks for simplification,
>>>  so it means that each account will have seprate VLAN with its own subnet
>>> and those VLANs will be created and configured in physical switch?
>>>
>>> if architecture is above mentioned way configured then how can we achieve
>>> NAT and loadbalancing?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tejas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Geoff Higginbottom <
>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like to think of Advanced Network with SG as simply multiple Basic
>>>> Networks, each on its own VLAN. You have the same features (or rather lack
>>>> of) as you would with a Basic Zone, but you have multiple Guest Networks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>>
>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>>
>>>> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tejas Sheth [mailto:tshet...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 26 November 2014 09:53
>>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: security group and xenserver query
>>>>
>>>> so NAT and loadbalancers are not possible if we use security group?
>>>>
>>>> so it meanse there will be no internal and external IPs for VMs. is it
>>>> correct?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jayapal Reddy Uradi <
>>>> jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > For SG networks there is no public network.
>>>> > We configure public ips for the guest network.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Jayapal
>>>> >
>>>> > On 26-Nov-2014, at 12:00 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>>> >  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hello,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >  I have made the bridge configuration, but when i am selecting
>>>> > > advance zone. it is not showing public network configuration. only
>>>> > > guest and management is availabel. also internal CIDR ip
>>>> > > configuration is also not available.
>>>> > > i think it is cinverting to basic zone if we select security group
>>>> > > and xenserver as hypervisor.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks
>>>> > > Tejas
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Jayapal Reddy Uradi <
>>>> > > jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> For 6.2 you no need to install CSP. My typo mistake in last mail.
>>>> > >> sysctl.conf is fine.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> > >> Jayapal
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On 25-Nov-2014, at 8:45 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Thanks,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> So can i take it as confirmation and proceed with only following
>>>> > >>> bridge configuration in xenserver 6.2?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> # xe-switch-network-backend bridge
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> # vi /etc/sysctl.conf
>>>> > >>>   net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables = 1
>>>> > >>>    net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables = 0
>>>> > >>>     net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables = 1
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>  # sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Require confirmation for sysctl.cnf configuration part.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> > >>> Tejas
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Vadim Kimlaychuk <
>>>> > >> vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee
>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> XenServer does not need any package to be expicitly installed.
>>>> > >>>> When
>>>> > you
>>>> > >>>> add host to CS it copies some files to the host itself and you
>>>> > >>>> don't
>>>> > >> need
>>>> > >>>> to bother about them usually.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Vadim.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >>>> From: Tejas Sheth [mailto:tshet...@gmail.com]
>>>> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:52 PM
>>>> > >>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>> > >>>> Subject: security group and xenserver query
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Hello Jayapal,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Thanks for reply, I have understood the bridge configuration part
>>>> > >>>> but can you clarify CSP package part.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> if CSP package comes with xenserver 6.2 then do we need to
>>>> > >>>> install it explicitly?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> It would be really helpful if you can send link to install CSP in
>>>> > >>>> xenserver 6.2 because CS 4.3 document do not have description for
>>>> > >> xenserver
>>>> > >>>> 6.2 CSP installation.
>>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > >>>> Hi Tejas,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> The network mode set to 'bridge' mode.
>>>> > >>>> #xe-switch-network-backend  bridge
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I think Xenserver 6.2 comes with the CSP package, so you need to
>>>> > install
>>>> > >>>> it explicitly.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>>> > >>>> Jayapal
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On 25-Nov-2014, at 4:47 PM, Tejas Sheth <tshet...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> We are configuring advanced zone in cloudstack 4.3 in xenserver
>>>> 6.2.
>>>> > >>>>> we want to configure security group in advance zone. do we have
>>>> > >>>>> to do any special configuration in xenserver 6.2.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> xenserver has default networking configuration.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> > >>>>> Tejas
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
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