So am I, you wont' see a break tag or hr in any of my sites anymore:) but that's not what I mean - example we tried it with codingforums.com, but the sheer size of traffic, vanilla wouldn't hold up to it, there's just too much information. Not saying RC will get there but it's a nice thought.

On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:

Really? I don't doubt you but the whole point of Ajax is to introduce more separation between presentation and logic. Maybe this is just me, but I've
never seen a phpbb forum that I could call quick.

I'm probably caught up in semantics, but I think its a shame a slick Web 2.0
product like RC doesn't utilise an efficient, Ajax-based BB as well.

My 2 cents,

Geoffrey

On 09/03/06 21:25, Brady J. Frey wrote:
By more powerful, I don't mean in regards to features -- I've just seen
phpBB handle a heavier amount of users much more easily than Vanilla.

Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:
Hmm, not sure I would agree with that. PHPbb can't handle saved searches,
and
doesn't support RSS if I remember correctly.

On 09/03/06 21:10, Brady J. Frey wrote:

I will say that phpBB is much more powerful -- Vanilla couldn't handle some of the advanced stuff that high end forums do, but porting over a style... I don't know if that would be easy. You might find it faster to
just create the CSS to mimic the style of his look/feel.

Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:

Yeah, Vanilla seriously cooks with gas. You can have RSS out the wazoo,

clean

xhtml code, and each user can have their own stylesheet!

Brett was mentioning he was in the process of building a template for

phpbb. I

wonder if it could be ported over easily?

Geoffrey

On 09/03/06 21:05, Brady J. Frey wrote:


Oooh, fun -- now we can CSS that baby to our hearts content, bless you
Geoffrey...

Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:


Hi Everyone,
Well give the people what they want I always say!

I've installed a simple forum on a domain I run to test it out with
the
community. If we all like it and Thomas is happy, we can look into


pointing a


subdomain towards it. Or, we can migrate it over to SF. Either way is

cool

with me. My server has loads of bandwidth so I'm happy to host it for

the

time being.

The system isn't based on PHPBB. I thought it fitting that since

Roundcube



was


the first major Open Source webmail system born in the Web 2.0

generation,

that the forum should be to. Its called Vanilla, and it has a lot of

great

features as well as a great community behind it (like ours).

The forum is here: http://roundforums.verada.net
If you want more information on Vanilla, go here:


http://www.getvanilla.com/


If anyone wants to volunteer to moderate a category, feel free to
email


me.


Any comments on the forum itself, please reply to all.

regards,

Geoffrey

On 09/03/06 16:42, GunFro wrote:



Hi all.
I just want to agree that a forum would be great, it's fun getting
mail



but...



RC is just the best.
Se You around.
/Gunnar

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:38:20 -0800, "Brady J. Frey"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



wrote:



..and if you don't want the burden, I'm happy to pop it under my hosting too, and promote as needed. I can probably get some web developers who teach with me on codingforums.com to come over and
try

to

answer some CSS/XHTML/HTML/Design/PHP/MySQL questions, or cross post

to

them, or get CSS Beauty in the mix. Either way, a forum would be

useful.

*Brady J. Frey*
creative director // *dotfive*


Brett Patterson wrote:



You mentioned something about giving away space on SF for the
forum.
I'm willing to head up the forum aspect (I don't have much on the

skin

yet, but I can work on it in my free time (would be a pleasure!!))

and

manage it. Of course the devs would have access to "restricted"

areas

of moderation/administration, or however you want to do it. Just
let
me know what you need to allow me in, and I'll give it to you! My
email on Sf is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (no quotes).

I was initially going to use roundcube.bpatterson.net as the
forum-space; but if SF wants to host it, fine by me. Either will

work

in my honest opinion. But SF would make it look more official.

Eagerly awaiting your reply!!

~Brett

Thomas Bruederli wrote:



Geoffrey McCaleb wrote:




I last banged on about this last December if memory serves, but
why
exactly is there no support forums for Roundcube yet? I know the developers wish to keep the mailing list going for development threads, but surely we all agree that mailing lists are not the

best

vehicle for end user support?
I know there was talk of setting up a wiki, but I haven't seen
any
sight of it yet.



The Wiki is on progress. Actually the wiki is ready but it's part
of

a

Trac system that also hosts the source repository and integrates a bug-tracker. These are both not yet properly configured. You can

start

filling up the Wiki with useful information:

http://trac.roundcube.net

but remember that the tracker and the source repository are not
up-to-date.




I am happy to setup and host a forum, as long as there is a
consensus that it is needed. I have no desire to splinter the
community though.




The decision to use mailing lists was made some time ago and I
don't
like to have multiple forums that I need to check periodically.




Anyone else agree? Or is this being worked on separately?

Geoffrey





Regards,
Thomas




























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