On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 07:39 -0600, Doug Thompson wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 19:03 -0400, Paul B. wrote: > > > >>G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 13:12 -0500, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>It would be very helpful if all participants in this listserv that have > >>>>used > >>>>their printers and OOo to print envelopes describe how they set up OOo to > >>>>do > >>>>it. The collection of these descriptions should be plugged into the > >>>>documentation for OOo. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Please review pages 168-169 of > >>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/OOo1.x.x/user_guide.pdf > >>> > >>>How can this section be improved? > >> > >> > >>Try as I have - and I've spent over one hour this week on it - > >>the envelope function simply will not print landscape on my > >>Lexmark 6170. I've tried fooling it by speccing portrait, but > >>nothing works. This has been true of every version of OOo that > >>I've ever tried it on. > >> > >>Paul > >> > > > > > > I hear you but I do not understand. Let me see if I interpret correctly: > > > > 1. You have a printer that will take envelopes with the long edge > > entering the printer and the short edges in the tray. > > 2. You have set the printer properties in OOo > > 3. You have set the envelope up the way you want > > > > Printing of the envelope should be working. > > > Bingo! It doesn't. > There is a fundamental flaw in the workings of envelope printing in OOo > and it has been present since early days. My first use of OOo and > filing of an issue was with OOo 1.0.3 in 2003 and nothing has truly changed. > In my case, I use an HP4000 with Win98 or SuSE9.1 (Used to be RH9). OOo > is incapable of dealing with the center fed envelope from the manual > tray on this printer. One would think that it all that is necessary is > to reposition the frames for the return address and addressee fields > so that they print in the proper regions on the actual envelope. Hah! > As soon as I do that, then OOo starts printing across the envelope in > portrait mode and will not change back until I dump that template and > start all over again. I am SAFT (sick and <bleep>ing tired) of > submitting issues on matters like this only to have them come back as > "Can not duplicate." I invite any developer to visit and observe this > behavior on all three of my computers. I suspect they can accomplish > the same result by merely testing with an HP4000, but that course of > action seems too obvious. > > Gerry, you asked earlier in this thread what must be done to the manual > to help solve the problems people are having, but that addresses only > the symptom and not the disease. As I have said in the issues I have > filed, until OOo reliably, consistently, and intuitively handles > envelope printing, it is nearly worthless as a business tool to > thousands, if not millions, of potential users. Because I can > accomplish over 90% of my mailing using window envelopes and my > accounting program, I work around it. If it weren't for my personal > bias against "The Beast" and a high threshold for pain, I would have > thrown in the towel long ago. </rant> >
What's sad about this is that I CANNOT reproduce your problem. I wish I could so I can see what's wrong. The only complaint I have is that 1.1.x does not always present US envelope sizes whereas 1.9m8+ does. If you have opened an issue or know of an existing one, please publish the number. This may be an again but it won't hurt :-) As you can guess I am concerned that procedures for envelopes are reasonable and correct in the docs in the documentation project. -- PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST. Documentation Co-Lead http://documentation.openoffice.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
