Jim Allan wrote:
Brian Barker wrote:
At 10:54 14/11/2008 -0500, Dale Robertson wrote:
The most sensible format for today in numeric form is 2008/11/14 (ISO ...

Just in the interests of accuracy, ISO 8601 requires that the separators - if they are used - be hyphens: 2008-11-14. This is one of the formats provided by OpenOffice, of course - though not the default in many (most?) locales.

Locales are partly bogus. The basic idea is that there are standards used within particular areas, usually countries, by about 99% of the people. But it's not true. In fact, people often vary widely within countries and even within individual communities.

Canada is mostly metric, but paper measurements are mostly in inches. Canadian dictionaries generally represent both US-specific spellings and Oxford UK-specific spellings as both correct. Sometimes, however they reject a particular US spelling or a particular UK spelling.

Date formats are up to you. I generally use ISO formats, with hyphens, as the most readable and as a format that will sort properly when in text format, as when part of a file name. And I know it won't be misinterpreted by the reader, as the four-digit year number indicates the order.

But because locale formats demand a single value, the experts have to select one usage, usually following some federal government standard. (Even federal government standards are not in agreement on every issue.) About all you can get from the values in a locale is that the default values set in that locate are at least acceptable in the area that the locale purports to cover. In some places that date formatting may be used by 99% of the people. In others, it may be 51% or even less.

Even within the US, there are companies that have gone metric internally, regardless of what the locale says.

Jim Allan


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Quite true. All the more important for OOo to provide a setting for the user (or the company IT staff). **After 3 major versions, the developers should have figured this out.**

OOo can copy the user’s personalized colors and fonts from the OS, so the user has a consistent desktop décor. (And to help with accessibility issues.) It it should not be that hard to do this for dates and times, too.

One way to do this: Provide a check box for the ISO date and time style. Provide a check box for the style found in the logged-in user’s preferences in the OS. Provide a check box for the “OOo official” style belonging to the locale of the current paragraph. Provide a check box for a custom style, and the means to edit it. Allow the style to be saved in the document, for users who have to deal with many companies and their idiosyncrasies.

If this has already been done, please tell me how to import or create my date and time style.

——Eli




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