On 2009/05/11 7:04 AM Barbara Duprey wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Barbara Duprey wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
HOWEVER, less than two years ago, on this list, we had examples of
people not receiving the message footer parts. In fact I recall
receiving posts from _some_ posters (who posted only to the list,
not to
individual members) where the incoming message did not contain the
unsubscribe administrivia at the bottom. I forget what was the
source
of that situation, but it might be relevant to some of the people
having
trouble.
Such examples are endemic Kevin. So lets take a poll here.
How many receivers of this list can see a quote by sci-fi author Ed
Howdershelt at the bottom of this message? if you can, your email
agent is good. If its stripped, your email agent is broken. It
really is that simple.
Many email agents think they are doing the user a favor when they
strip the useless (to them) sigs from the bottom of a message before
they show it to the reader, and since the convention in email
formatting places a 'newline dash dash space' as the sig separator,
this is very easy for them to do. But it is not correct to strip it
until one hits the reply keys, then it actually becomes wasted space
cuz most will add their own. Until that reply key is hit, it should
show you this stuff, which is appended by the server as the last 2
lines or so of the message it forwards to the subscribers. Below
my sig.
Your sig came through, but I don't think that is the cause of the
missing unsubscribe trailer -- it has a long string of dashes, not the
standard two, so it would not follow the rules for sig stripping. My
best guess is that those who use gmail addresses for posting do not get
the trailer on their posts, while others do (sometimes grayed out below
a user sig, as for yur post, and therefore not repeated in replies). I
haven't really investigated that, though. Anybody else figured out
what's happening here?
I get Gene's signatures. But I do not get any signature with your
message. I am using Thunderbird and use Gmane to read/write mailing
lists. I am using a gmail address for all the mailing lists.
Finally, if I view my own messages, I do seen my own signature as well.
Do these observations shed any more light on this problem?
I don't use a sig per se, but it's interesting if you're not seeing
the unsubscribe trailer. I suspect that gmail has some different
processing that sometimes (but apparently not always) discards the
incoming trailer. Do you typically see it on other messages? How about
on this one?
He said Gmane, not gmail, to see the list as a newsgroup instead of a
mailing list.
Messages read through Gmane do not have the unsubscribe trailer since
Gmane uses a different process to allow users post messages. To stop
receiving messages you just delete gmane.comp.openoffice.questions from
your newgroup reader. There is no unsubscribing process.
--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." -
Edgard Varese
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