On 2009/05/11 7:46 PM  Barbara Duprey wrote:
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2009/05/11 7:04 AM  Barbara Duprey wrote:
I don't use a sig per se, but it's interesting if you're not seeing the unsubscribe trailer. I suspect that gmail has some different processing that sometimes (but apparently not always) discards the incoming trailer. Do you typically see it on other messages? How about on this one?

He said Gmane, not gmail, to see the list as a newsgroup instead of a mailing list.

Messages read through Gmane do not have the unsubscribe trailer since Gmane uses a different process to allow users post messages. To stop receiving messages you just delete gmane.comp.openoffice.questions from your newgroup reader. There is no unsubscribing process.
OK, so Gmane strips incoming unsubscribe trailers (always? only if there's no true sig?) prior to posting to the newsgroup, where it is not relevant.

The unsubscribe notice is never delivered by Gmane.

But I'm also interested in why posts coming to the list from some accounts (I've noted users at gmail.com, as in H.S.'s case, and aol.com) would somehow --at least sometimes -- keep our list server from appending the trailer before posting to the list.

H.S isn't posting from gmail. He is posting through Gmane. You can check by looking for these headers.

   X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
   Original-Sender: news <[email protected]>
His email address, as is mine, is at gmail. But the messages he and I send to and receive from the list do not go through gmail. The email address listed is irrelevant as far as our sending and receiving messages from this list.

After all, the typical user is subscribed and following the list as email, not as a newsgroup, regardless of the origin of the message. Such a user may need the unsubscribe info.

These Headers are always included. Any intelligent person can always look in the headers to find this information.

   list-help: <mailto:[email protected]>
   list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]>


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Larry I. Gusaas
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Edgard Varese


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