On 11/30/2009 02:52 AM, Christian Lippka wrote: > NoOp wrote: > >>> >>>>> Please try to install 'ffdshow tryouts'. This should enable mp4 support >>>>> in OOo as it provides a direct show filter which uses the same backend >>>>> as the VLC player does. >>>> What is "ffdshow tryouts" and where do I get it from? >>> http://tinyurl.com/yca8log >> >> That's a bit rude, don't you think? > No, actually I think it is helpful to teach others the magic of > internet :-) Give a man a link or teach him how to google, thats > from the bible I think.
No. It's not helpful when you are posting to a *users* list. Keep in mind the purpose of this list is to help and assist *users*. Given your recommendation to use ffdshow, and your background, the least you can do is participate by offering your considerable knowledge on how to get it working with OOo. This is not a fishing contest; folks here try to use and promote OOo. They also try to assist others by offering advise on how do the same. BTW: I do not use Windows much (except for assisting customers), but I do have a pretty good handle most Windows tech issues, at least from Win2K to WinXP, and I could not figure out how to properly get ffdshow to work. I *did* manage to get it to work with the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack, as did another user (Leslie.D'Gama). But in another thread you post: <quote from "MP4 Files & OOo"> just my 2 cents to add some value to this discussion. I would advise to avoid the "K-Lite Mega Codec Pack" unless you know exactly what you are doing. The chance to mess up your system on the long run is high. </quote from "MP4 Files & OOo"> Shall we JFGI for the reasoning there as well? > >> @Christian: it's a shame that a fine open source product/project like >> OOo relies on a proprietary media player in Windows. It's surprising >> that an option is not available to select and use an alternate open >> source media player such as VLC etc. > > I don't know if it is a shame, but OOo relies on many system stuff as > it would be unwise to invite the wheel over and over again. And it > does not rely on a proprietary media player on windows. As I said it > uses direct show which is part of the the published DirectX API. > Do you think it is a shame that most games on windows use DirectX and > don't program all the available graphics hardware directly? You'd know better than I, but isn't the reason for the Microsoft .NET Framework Redistributable EULA license in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html associated with DirectShow/DirectX? That's a question. > > Anyway, tell me what we can use on windows instead? The same that > vlc uses? Will you take the responsibility for all the patents this > solution would violate? While MPEG&co are published formats, they > are not free. So where is the shame? That vlc violates the law or > that OOo is still free and no one can be sued just because he downloaded > it? VLC violates the law how? You, of course have something to back that up I presume. VLC does not include illegal codecs; they do in fact allow the inclusion of added codecs (legal or otherwise) in the same maner that gstreamer (your specialty I believe) does. VLC is a published open source with a GPL license (unlike .NET). But you knew that didn't you? I wasn't promoting VLC, I was making comment as to why OOo relies on a *proprietary* application in Windows for sound and video. If you don't think that DirectShow/DirectX et al is not proprietary, then I'd welcome cited references stating otherwise. BTW: Do you suppose that IBM is violating MPEG patents by publishing an MPEG-4 java toolkit? http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/tk4mpeg4 I suppose that OOo should remove the ability to insert a hyperlink into any presenation and/or document, as that allows one to launch a "possibly illegal" application (like VLC...). So, let's get back to ffDShow; how about climbing off of your JFGI horse and providing a little expertise & assistance on how to install and get this working with OOo? As you can see, OOo *users* and other inquiring minds would like to know how to use it, and how to actually make their OOo Impress presentations work. If you don't want to publish it here, then put it in your blog or point to a resource that provides the instructions. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
