On 2/19/06, Pavel Janík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Chad: I have never heard you telling that OpenOffice.org is the same as
> Neo. I only heard the opposite. Why?


I've never had a need to say it that way.  I mean, obviously, if NeoOffice
is the same as OpenOffice.org then OpenOffice.org is the same as NeoOffice.
The only reason I say it the way I do is because people ask for
OpenOffice.org for Mac - so I tell them that NeoOffice is a version of
OpenOffice.org for Mac.  If someone asked the question "Can I get NeoOffice
for Windows?" I'd tell them OpenOffice.org is the same as NeoOffice, and
OpenOffice.org runs on Windows, Linux, Solaris, and other operating
systems.  But since this is an OpenOffice.org list - if someone is here,
then know about OpenOffice.org - so the need has not yet come up, at least
not to my knowledge.

On any given operating system, you choose the version of software that runs
natively or most-natively.  I could, on my Windows desktop, fire up a copy
of PearPC, run OS X on it, then in OS X run Fink, and load up a copy of
AbiWord in the Fink environment.  Or, I could just download AbiWord for
Windows.  On a Mac, I could run virtualPC, load Windows 98, run colinux and
load up a copy of GIMPShop - or I could run GIMPShop through X11 on Mac OS
X.  For OpenOffice.org - the most native version is NeoOffice.  No special
runtimes, no windowing environments - nothing that's not a part of the
natvie install of OS X is needed.  If a user comes on the user list and
asked "how can I install Open Office on my Mac?"  I will *always* tell them
the most native way to do it, and until the "official" port of
OpenOffice.org drops the X11 requirement, or until NeoOffice requires a
special kludgy dependancy that is as bad as X11 or worse, then I will always
tell them NeoOffice.


Don't you think you are only making
> unnecessary "wars" between both teams?


Last I checked, this is the users list - not the development list.  A user
asked the question "how can I install OpenOffice.org on my Mac?  NeoOffice
works fine."  I answered them and told them the truth, if you've got
NeoOffice you don't need another version of the same program.  It would be
like me telling someone if you've got GIMPShop you don't need the GIMP, or
if you've got SodiPodi, you don't need Inkscape, of if you've got the native
port of OpenOffice.org for Windows - you don't need to run CoLinux and fire
up a Linux copy of OOo on top of that.


Don't you think that both Mac OS
> X porting team and Neo team want to get closer, to cooperate closer? The
> only thing both teams should do is to ignore you! I have started with it
> now.


I don't care if the development teams ignore me or not.  I don't know a
whole lot of developers that know my name.  I don't know a whole lot of
developers who give a rat's butt about my opinion anyway.  And I don't know
a whole lot of developers who read the users list looking for reasons to
cooperate or hate other groups of developers.

I hope you do ignore me, Pavel, because I'm tired of having to explain
myself to you.

Have a great day.
--
- Chad Smith
http://www.gimpshop.net/
Because everyone loves free software!

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