On 13/07/08 09:58, Brian Barker wrote:
At 11:46 11/07/2008 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
I am exclusively using European page sizes like A4, A5, C2 etc.
Invariably OO suggests US Letter, Legal or similar American standard
sizes. I guess that somewhere in OO is a definition which can be
changed but I can't find it. Can someone help, please?
I am using OO 2.3.0 with Linux Fedora 7.
Recently changed to OO 2.4.1 which didn't change anything to this issue.
As I mentioned to you privately, the first place you should look is at
your locale setting at Tools | Options... | Language Settings |
Languages. If you have that set to Danish or perhaps English (UK), you
should see A4 as the default page size for new documents. If you have
it as English (USA), you will indeed see Letter as the default page
size. (This is anyway how things operate on my 2.4.1 for Windows XP.)
You seem to have ignored this suggestion: at least, you don't seem to
have told me or us what your locale setting is and whether changing it
helps. Note that this has nothing to do with the language you choose to
write in or in which to have your spelling checked.
Language is set to English (UK).
If that doesn't help, the solution must, I think, lie with your
operating system or printer set-up - outside of OpenOffice, that is.
Ordinary documents come up with A4. I wasn't very specific at first. The problem
comes with labels only.
At 14:16 11/07/2008 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
... I have the problem with labels (Avery A4).
The first thing to notice is that this is an entirely separate problem
(and it isn't a problem at all, I believe).
The page size comes up as "User" and it's not A4 (20,83 by 28,65 cm),
so I'll have to change it every time.
No: you won't have to change it, I think. Read on!
If I don't change anything labels aren't printed correctly. The text is not
positioned correctly on the labels. When I change format to A4 both for the
label sheet (Format -> Page) and the printer setup then it prints correctly.
At 01:22 13/07/2008 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
If you select Avery A4 you get the whole list of labels for that
format. If you then select one of these labels to work with and select
Format -> Page you'll see that OO has set Page Format to "User" and
size to 20.83 by 28.44 cm and this is not what is expected when you
work with A4 size documents.
I think you are mixing up two things here. Unlike some similar
products, OpenOffice distinguishes between page size and paper size.
(For example, when you print a brochure, you might set the page size to
A5 portrait but the paper size to A4 landscape.) The page size
dimensions that you quote appear to be the size of the actual labels
along with enough margin space above and to the left in order to
position the printed image correctly on the actual A4 paper. The right
and bottom margins are not included in the page size, but will form
themselves naturally when the smaller page size is printed - aligned at
the top left corner - on stock of the actual (A4) paper size. If you
print the labels to a printer which believes it is getting an A4 image,
everything should work properly.
Nope.
Of course you can change it to the proper format and size but then
when you later print the label sheet OO has set the printer to a page
size of US letter; again incorrect to my understanding.
That's back to the (separate) first problem, of course - and will be
solved when you solve that.
Nope.
At 07:57 13/07/2008 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
Can you try the following label: L7671? The wizard size is not
interesting (I think). You should get from Format|Page:
Format: User
Width: 18.54cm
Height: 28.82
Which is far from A4. And apparently this "User" format is not the
same with different labels. Weird.
I think you can see what is happening from this example. Let's assume
(I don't know that it is true, but it seems to be) that these labels are
actually positioned centrally on their A4 backing sheet. Using the
values shown on the Format tab of the Labels wizard, we can reconstruct
the paper size that Writer is implying.
o The paper width would be Left margin + Horizontal pitch + Width +
Right margin, i.e. 2.75 + 7.87 + 7.62 + 2.75 = 20.99 (cm).
o The paper height would be Top margin + Rows x Vertical pitch + Bottom
margin, i.e. 0.93 + 6 x 4.64 + 0.93 = 29.70 (cm).
Bingo! That's A4.
Beautiful, but the output is incorrect (see above).
--
Erik.
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