> On 1 Sep 2008 at 21:21, Twayne wrote:
> ...
>> This isn't new, for whatever reason; it's been around just like this
>> for a long time.  I don't know if they took it out or not, but the
>> BETA of version 3.0 I tested did create an icon at least for the
>> desktop that opend the control panel type where you had access to
>> all the components of OOo..  If they kept that it'll stop a lot of
>> these kinds of questions and discussion.
>>    I"m not sure just why the aversion to at least the desktop icon to
>> open the control panel type screen that gives you access to all 5
>> tools, or however many there are, but it's been bitched and whined
>> about since before I started hanging around here.  For some reason
>> there's a strong aversion to creating the desktop icon/s and/or not
>> having hte install garbage on the desktop.  I was told once (by
>> obviously not a windows user) that the Programs list was the way MS
>> wanted you to open files, so that's where OO put them.  Most people
>> I know, myself included, only go to Programs when I want to make
>> icons for the desktop (Send To context menu)  so I don't have to
>> mess around looking for my progs all the time. Much better to have
>> an icon on the desktop; even if it's just the one access-to-all icon.
>
> For my own part, I want nothing on the desktop that I didn't put
> there explicitly - usually for quick access to /my/ frequently needed
> programs.
>
> I had a new lappy a couple of years ago - installed several packages
> on it, and ended up with a desktop that was crammed full of icons for
> things I'd hardly ever use (if at all - some packages were very free
> in the icons they provided). Dreadful waste of space - couldn't find
> the things I did want.
>
> So it all went - but I had to cross-check every icon to make sure the
> same appeared in the Start menu (they all did, iirc)
>
> But by putting icons in the start menu, you're assuming that people
> know/think to look there -- and judging from some questions raised
> here, people simply don't: perhaps trained to a simple life by the
> "cram the desktop" brigade.
>
> I think a solution is that (1) OOo should delete its installation
> garbage - don't leave things around that aren't needed, especially on
> the desktop. (And if this stuff is "secretly" needed for later
> installation alterations, it should be tucked away from users' view)
> and (2) OOo could usefully make the usual offer of where to put icons
> - desktop, start menu, quick launch would be typical choices: and by
> all means have them all ticked by default to help the newcomer get
> started.

Right; choices make the most sense IMO; makes everyone happy I think.
   In my case, actually, I don't use the desktop desktop.  The icons are 
set to not show.  But I DO use the Desktop menu placed by default on the 
Task Bar when you turn it on.  All the OOo shortcuts are in a desktop 
folder so I just go to OO in the menu & choose what I want.  But 
technically the folders are still all icons on the desktop, were I to 
turn it on; I just use the menu instead because I like text instead of 
useless iconic representations.  And, it's sorted for me.





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