On 1 Sep 2008 at 21:21, Twayne wrote:
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> This isn't new, for whatever reason; it's been around just like this for 
> a long time.  I don't know if they took it out or not, but the BETA of 
> version 3.0 I tested did create an icon at least for the desktop that 
> opend the control panel type where you had access to all the components 
> of OOo..  If they kept that it'll stop a lot of these kinds of questions 
> and discussion.
>    I"m not sure just why the aversion to at least the desktop icon to 
> open the control panel type screen that gives you access to all 5 tools, 
> or however many there are, but it's been bitched and whined about since 
> before I started hanging around here.  For some reason there's a strong 
> aversion to creating the desktop icon/s and/or not having hte install 
> garbage on the desktop.  I was told once (by obviously not a windows 
> user) that the Programs list was the way MS wanted you to open files, so 
> that's where OO put them.  Most people I know, myself included, only go 
> to Programs when I want to make icons for the desktop (Send To context 
> menu)  so I don't have to mess around looking for my progs all the time. 
> Much better to have an icon on the desktop; even if it's just the one 
> access-to-all icon.

For my own part, I want nothing on the desktop that I didn't put 
there explicitly - usually for quick access to /my/ frequently needed 
programs.

I had a new lappy a couple of years ago - installed several packages 
on it, and ended up with a desktop that was crammed full of icons for 
things I'd hardly ever use (if at all - some packages were very free 
in the icons they provided). Dreadful waste of space - couldn't find 
the things I did want.

So it all went - but I had to cross-check every icon to make sure the 
same appeared in the Start menu (they all did, iirc)

But by putting icons in the start menu, you're assuming that people 
know/think to look there -- and judging from some questions raised 
here, people simply don't: perhaps trained to a simple life by the 
"cram the desktop" brigade.

I think a solution is that (1) OOo should delete its installation 
garbage - don't leave things around that aren't needed, especially on 
the desktop. (And if this stuff is "secretly" needed for later 
installation alterations, it should be tucked away from users' view) 
and (2) OOo could usefully make the usual offer of where to put icons 
- desktop, start menu, quick launch would be typical choices: and by 
all means have them all ticked by default to help the newcomer get 
started.  

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