If I had your knowledge and more time (project manager), I wish I could help.
Best regards Philippe 2013/1/22 Thies Edeling <th...@rrm.net> > Wicket is open source, if you feel that the documentation is lacking - feel > free to contribute. > On Jan 22, 2013 5:54 PM, "Philippe Demaison" <ph.demai...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Ondra and Kees, > > > > Are you kidding ? > > > > Are you saying that I need to > > > > - read a book released in 2009 covering wicket 1.3 ? > > - read http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html (for > which > > wicket version ? ) > > - read the Wicket Cookbook > > - read the migration from 1.x to 1.5 > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html > > - read the migration from 1.5 to 1.6 > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html > > > > to understand what are the Wicket's benefits and write a POC ? > > > > > > Are you saying that I need to google to read the best practices ? > > > > You know that framework adoption is linked to good documentation. > > Not only of course (quality are community are equally important) but > > documentation is essential. > > > > For example, I find these documentations much more appealing > > > > http://www.playframework.org/documentation/2.0.4/Home > > http://tapestry.apache.org/documentation.html > > https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuide > > http://www.springsource.org/spring-framework#documentation > > > > Don't you ? > > > > Philippe > > > > 2013/1/22 Ondrej Zizka <ozi...@redhat.com> > > > > > Hi Phillipe, > > > > > > you're right, the documentation deserves improvements. > > > > > > I would recommend you to start with the Wicket in Action book. That > will > > > give you the basic concepts of Wicket. > > > Then continue with the examples from http://www.wicket-library.com/** > > > wicket-examples/index.html< > > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html>. That will > > enforce what you learned in the book, and show more tricks. > > > Then go through the Wicket Cookbook. That is a collection of solutions > > and > > > best practices for common tasks. > > > Then skim through https://cwiki.apache.org/** > > > WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.**html< > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html> > > > and https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.**html< > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html>. > > > > > > It is quite easy to create non-ajax websites. I only have dificulties > > once > > > it gets to Ajax. > > > In such cases, this mailing list is very useful, and also stackoverflow > > > and the multitude of blogs. > > > > > > Not sure what are your other options, but e.g. I prefer Wicket over > JSF. > > > Even big JSF fans claim that "JSF is marginally better". > > > > > > And last thing, I would recommend to try Wicket in combination with > JBoss > > > AS 7, which made my development quick and easy - redeployment in 3 > > seconds, > > > restart in 5 seconds, CDI, JPA and JAAS at hand, the Infinispan cache, > > easy > > > management, ... > > > > > > my2c, > > > Ondra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01/22/2013 11:24 AM, Philippe Demaison wrote: > > > > > >> Hi All, > > >> > > >> As Gabor Friedrich from the FAO, we are in my company, L'Oreal, > > comparing > > >> different web frameworks. > > >> Apache Wicket may be the best framework, may be usefull for my > company, > > I > > >> don't know. > > >> I don't know because there is no clear documentation for a good > > >> evaluation. > > >> > > >> In fact the documentation is not good. > > >> > > >> The documentation is not up to date, not to say obsolete, not well > > >> organized and definitely not sexy. > > >> Sorry to being rude, I know this is difficult to do, but this is a > major > > >> drawback when company and people evaluate Wicket. > > >> > > >> Some articles are for 1.4 or 1.5, not many for 6 > > >> Some articles are redundant. > > >> > > >> I am sure the folowing structure could be improved : > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/framework-**documentation.html< > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/framework-documentation.html>is > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/index.html< > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/documentation-index.**html< > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html> > > >> > > >> The http://wicket.apache.org/ layout is good. > > >> Why not reorganize the documentation with this layout ? > > >> > > >> Managers want to see benefits, developpers want to learn fast(and have > > >> fun). > > >> > > >> > > >> I tested the mentionned blogs on http://wicket.apache.org/meet/** > > >> blogs.html <http://wicket.apache.org/meet/blogs.html> > > >> > > >> Here is what I found : > > >> > > >> Chillenious! - Eelco Hillenius - http://chillenious.wordpress.**com/< > > http://chillenious.wordpress.com/> > > >> last update : 2008 > > >> > > >> Here be beasties - Al Maw - http://herebebeasties.com/ > > >> last update : 2009 > > >> > > >> Codierspiel - Nathan Hamblen (runs on Wicket) - > > >> http://code.technically.us/ > > >> no a single wicket post > > >> > > >> Antwerkz - Justin Lee - http://antwerkz.com/wp/ > > >> empty > > >> > > >> Geertjan - Geertjan Wielenga - http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan > > >> http 404 ! > > >> > > >> Mystic Coders - Andrew Lombardi and > > >> Wicket by Example - Community driven are pointing to the same address > : > > >> http://www.mysticcoders.com/**blog/ < > http://www.mysticcoders.com/blog/> > > >> > > >> > > >> For a wider adoption of Wicket, > > >> Best regards to all of you > > >> > > >> Philippe Demaison > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
