If you're interested in learning Wicket, see the Learn section on the project's home page at: http://wicket.apache.org/
It has its own Books link: http://wicket.apache.org/learn/books/ ~ Thank you, Paul Bors On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ondrej Zizka <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Philippe, > > no, my suggestions were rather for learning wicket. > > However it's not quite easy to "evaluate" something you don't have > knowledge of. > At first glance, Wicket may seem quite verbose on Java side. > I personally didn't like it for the first time. But once I understood the > basic concepts, it started to make sense and I decided to make it my #1 > framework. > > The book from 2009 is really quick to read, and will introduce the basic > concepts which did not change much since 2009. > I think it's enough for evaluation. > BTW, see JSF - spec didn't change since 2009. See Spring - books from > 2007 still apply. Etc. > > > Ondra > > > > > On 01/22/2013 05:53 PM, Philippe Demaison wrote: > >> Hi Ondra and Kees, >> >> Are you kidding ? >> >> Are you saying that I need to >> >> - read a book released in 2009 covering wicket 1.3 ? >> - read >> http://www.wicket-library.com/**wicket-examples/index.html<http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html>(for >> which wicket version ? ) >> - read the Wicket Cookbook >> - read the migration from 1.x to 1.5 https://cwiki.apache.org/** >> WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.**html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html> >> - read the migration from 1.5 to 1.6 https://cwiki.apache.org/** >> WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.**html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html> >> >> to understand what are the Wicket's benefits and write a POC ? >> >> >> Are you saying that I need to google to read the best practices ? >> >> You know that framework adoption is linked to good documentation. >> Not only of course (quality are community are equally important) but >> documentation is essential. >> >> For example, I find these documentations much more appealing >> >> http://www.playframework.org/**documentation/2.0.4/Home<http://www.playframework.org/documentation/2.0.4/Home> >> http://tapestry.apache.org/**documentation.html<http://tapestry.apache.org/documentation.html> >> https://developers.google.com/**web-toolkit/doc/latest/**DevGuide<https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuide> >> http://www.springsource.org/**spring-framework#documentation<http://www.springsource.org/spring-framework#documentation> >> >> Don't you ? >> >> Philippe >> >> 2013/1/22 Ondrej Zizka <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> Hi Phillipe, >> >> you're right, the documentation deserves improvements. >> >> I would recommend you to start with the Wicket in Action book. >> That will give you the basic concepts of Wicket. >> Then continue with the examples from >> >> http://www.wicket-library.com/**wicket-examples/index.html<http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html>. >> That >> will enforce what you learned in the book, and show more tricks. >> Then go through the Wicket Cookbook. That is a collection of >> solutions and best practices for common tasks. >> Then skim through >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.**html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html> >> and >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.**html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html>. >> >> >> It is quite easy to create non-ajax websites. I only have >> dificulties once it gets to Ajax. >> In such cases, this mailing list is very useful, and also >> stackoverflow and the multitude of blogs. >> >> Not sure what are your other options, but e.g. I prefer Wicket >> over JSF. >> Even big JSF fans claim that "JSF is marginally better". >> >> And last thing, I would recommend to try Wicket in combination >> with JBoss AS 7, which made my development quick and easy - >> redeployment in 3 seconds, restart in 5 seconds, CDI, JPA and JAAS >> at hand, the Infinispan cache, easy management, ... >> >> my2c, >> Ondra >> >> >> >> >> On 01/22/2013 11:24 AM, Philippe Demaison wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> As Gabor Friedrich from the FAO, we are in my company, >> L'Oreal, comparing >> different web frameworks. >> Apache Wicket may be the best framework, may be usefull for my >> company, I >> don't know. >> I don't know because there is no clear documentation for a >> good evaluation. >> >> In fact the documentation is not good. >> >> The documentation is not up to date, not to say obsolete, not well >> organized and definitely not sexy. >> Sorry to being rude, I know this is difficult to do, but this >> is a major >> drawback when company and people evaluate Wicket. >> >> Some articles are for 1.4 or 1.5, not many for 6 >> Some articles are redundant. >> >> I am sure the folowing structure could be improved : >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/framework-**documentation.html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/framework-documentation.html>is >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/index.html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html> >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/documentation-index.**html<https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html> >> >> The http://wicket.apache.org/ layout is good. >> Why not reorganize the documentation with this layout ? >> >> Managers want to see benefits, developpers want to learn >> fast(and have fun). >> >> >> I tested the mentionned blogs on >> >> http://wicket.apache.org/meet/**blogs.html<http://wicket.apache.org/meet/blogs.html> >> >> Here is what I found : >> >> Chillenious! - Eelco Hillenius - http://chillenious.wordpress.** >> com/ <http://chillenious.wordpress.com/> >> >> last update : 2008 >> >> Here be beasties - Al Maw - http://herebebeasties.com/ >> last update : 2009 >> >> Codierspiel - Nathan Hamblen (runs on Wicket) - >> http://code.technically.us/ >> no a single wicket post >> >> Antwerkz - Justin Lee - http://antwerkz.com/wp/ >> empty >> >> Geertjan - Geertjan Wielenga - http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan >> http 404 ! >> >> Mystic Coders - Andrew Lombardi and >> Wicket by Example - Community driven are pointing to the same >> address : >> >> http://www.mysticcoders.com/**blog/<http://www.mysticcoders.com/blog/> >> >> >> For a wider adoption of Wicket, >> Best regards to all of you >> >> Philippe Demaison >> >> >> >> >
