Hi,
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Philippe Demaison <ph.demai...@gmail.com>wrote: > If I had your knowledge and more time (project manager), I wish I could > help. > Many people have said this... But I know exactly what you mean about the missing reference. I have an idea to start writing a reference guide that will explain the topics I'm most acquaint with. I'll use http://sphinx-doc.org/ because it supports an easy way to embed code snippets from other Maven modules - wicket-examples. So the code examples will evolve with the framework. Stay tuned! > > Best regards > Philippe > > > 2013/1/22 Thies Edeling <th...@rrm.net> > > > Wicket is open source, if you feel that the documentation is lacking - > feel > > free to contribute. > > On Jan 22, 2013 5:54 PM, "Philippe Demaison" <ph.demai...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Ondra and Kees, > > > > > > Are you kidding ? > > > > > > Are you saying that I need to > > > > > > - read a book released in 2009 covering wicket 1.3 ? > > > - read http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html (for > > which > > > wicket version ? ) > > > - read the Wicket Cookbook > > > - read the migration from 1.x to 1.5 > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html > > > - read the migration from 1.5 to 1.6 > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html > > > > > > to understand what are the Wicket's benefits and write a POC ? > > > > > > > > > Are you saying that I need to google to read the best practices ? > > > > > > You know that framework adoption is linked to good documentation. > > > Not only of course (quality are community are equally important) but > > > documentation is essential. > > > > > > For example, I find these documentations much more appealing > > > > > > http://www.playframework.org/documentation/2.0.4/Home > > > http://tapestry.apache.org/documentation.html > > > https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuide > > > http://www.springsource.org/spring-framework#documentation > > > > > > Don't you ? > > > > > > Philippe > > > > > > 2013/1/22 Ondrej Zizka <ozi...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > Hi Phillipe, > > > > > > > > you're right, the documentation deserves improvements. > > > > > > > > I would recommend you to start with the Wicket in Action book. That > > will > > > > give you the basic concepts of Wicket. > > > > Then continue with the examples from > http://www.wicket-library.com/** > > > > wicket-examples/index.html< > > > http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html>. That will > > > enforce what you learned in the book, and show more tricks. > > > > Then go through the Wicket Cookbook. That is a collection of > solutions > > > and > > > > best practices for common tasks. > > > > Then skim through https://cwiki.apache.org/** > > > > WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.**html< > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html> > > > > and https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.**html< > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html>. > > > > > > > > It is quite easy to create non-ajax websites. I only have dificulties > > > once > > > > it gets to Ajax. > > > > In such cases, this mailing list is very useful, and also > stackoverflow > > > > and the multitude of blogs. > > > > > > > > Not sure what are your other options, but e.g. I prefer Wicket over > > JSF. > > > > Even big JSF fans claim that "JSF is marginally better". > > > > > > > > And last thing, I would recommend to try Wicket in combination with > > JBoss > > > > AS 7, which made my development quick and easy - redeployment in 3 > > > seconds, > > > > restart in 5 seconds, CDI, JPA and JAAS at hand, the Infinispan > cache, > > > easy > > > > management, ... > > > > > > > > my2c, > > > > Ondra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01/22/2013 11:24 AM, Philippe Demaison wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi All, > > > >> > > > >> As Gabor Friedrich from the FAO, we are in my company, L'Oreal, > > > comparing > > > >> different web frameworks. > > > >> Apache Wicket may be the best framework, may be usefull for my > > company, > > > I > > > >> don't know. > > > >> I don't know because there is no clear documentation for a good > > > >> evaluation. > > > >> > > > >> In fact the documentation is not good. > > > >> > > > >> The documentation is not up to date, not to say obsolete, not well > > > >> organized and definitely not sexy. > > > >> Sorry to being rude, I know this is difficult to do, but this is a > > major > > > >> drawback when company and people evaluate Wicket. > > > >> > > > >> Some articles are for 1.4 or 1.5, not many for 6 > > > >> Some articles are redundant. > > > >> > > > >> I am sure the folowing structure could be improved : > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/framework-**documentation.html< > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/framework-documentation.html>is > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/index.html< > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html> > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/documentation-index.**html< > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html> > > > >> > > > >> The http://wicket.apache.org/ layout is good. > > > >> Why not reorganize the documentation with this layout ? > > > >> > > > >> Managers want to see benefits, developpers want to learn fast(and > have > > > >> fun). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I tested the mentionned blogs on http://wicket.apache.org/meet/** > > > >> blogs.html <http://wicket.apache.org/meet/blogs.html> > > > >> > > > >> Here is what I found : > > > >> > > > >> Chillenious! - Eelco Hillenius - http://chillenious.wordpress. > **com/< > > > http://chillenious.wordpress.com/> > > > >> last update : 2008 > > > >> > > > >> Here be beasties - Al Maw - http://herebebeasties.com/ > > > >> last update : 2009 > > > >> > > > >> Codierspiel - Nathan Hamblen (runs on Wicket) - > > > >> http://code.technically.us/ > > > >> no a single wicket post > > > >> > > > >> Antwerkz - Justin Lee - http://antwerkz.com/wp/ > > > >> empty > > > >> > > > >> Geertjan - Geertjan Wielenga - http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan > > > >> http 404 ! > > > >> > > > >> Mystic Coders - Andrew Lombardi and > > > >> Wicket by Example - Community driven are pointing to the same > address > > : > > > >> http://www.mysticcoders.com/**blog/ < > > http://www.mysticcoders.com/blog/> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> For a wider adoption of Wicket, > > > >> Best regards to all of you > > > >> > > > >> Philippe Demaison > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com <http://jweekend.com/>
