VACList-Digest Wednesday, April 3, 2002 Issue 262
Today's Topics:
1. Quarter Century
2. Vintage Plant in Santa Fe Springs
3. Re: 25 year rule
4. Re: Power Jack - 1973 Airstream Overlander
5. Re: wheel wells and the 25 year rule
6. Cover for a Bowen water heater
7. Re: Cover for a Bowen water heater
8. Refinish wood panels - 67 Safari
9. Charles Willson//Sewer solution??
10. Re: Refinish wood panels - 67 Safari
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:15:15 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quarter Century
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In a message dated 4/2/02 5:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Now, Ferrari's are semi-divided into those built with Enzo Ferrari's
> involvement and those designed after his death . . . .
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> Mmmmm.
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> Joe
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> '61 Bambi (same year as me, but it's Vintage and I'm not)
K Joe, but are you saying you won't be REALLY OLD in 2028....or that Ferrari
has a good idea:)
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#3dffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message
dated 4/2/02 5:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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<BR>Now, Ferrari's are semi-divided into those built with Enzo Ferrari's
<BR>involvement and those designed after his death . . . .
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<BR>Mmmmm.
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<BR>Joe
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<BR>'61 Bambi (same year as me, but it's Vintage and I'm not)</FONT><FONT
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<BR>K Joe, but are you saying you won't be REALLY OLD in 2028....or that Ferrari has a
good idea:)</FONT></HTML>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:17:23 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vintage Plant in Santa Fe Springs
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In a message dated 4/2/02 5:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Anyone know of what became of the plant? Home Depot? Wal-Mart? (we don't
> make stuff anymore, just consume it I guess...)
RJ;
My friend John who worked at the plant there in 1965 says it's abandoned. It
was a boat company for a while. He lived in the neighborhood and gave me
other great details of 1965 and Airstream...he'll be at the Delta with me.
Wendy
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#3dffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message
dated 4/2/02 5:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Anyone know of what became of the plant?
Home Depot? Wal-Mart? (we don't
<BR>make stuff anymore, just consume it I guess...)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"
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<BR>RJ;
<BR>My friend John who worked at the plant there in 1965 says it's abandoned. It was a
boat company for a while. He lived in the neighborhood and gave me other great details
of 1965 and Airstream...he'll be at the Delta with me.
<BR>
<BR>Wendy</FONT></HTML>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:38:33 -0500
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 25 year rule
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Guess if my '73 is not old enough to hang out or associate with the Vinta=
ge trailers then I guess I should stick with the Boomers (Airstream Boome=
rs). Besides my trailers only ten years younger than me so I guess Boomer=
would be a more appropriate association since I'm not vintage. But I sti=
ll have a passion for shiny metal, even if it's not gold but still looks =
good under the rainbow. Maybe I'll see a few more non-vintage A/S's in st=
ate parks if we can't join the vintage units, or become excluded due to a=
cutoff. =20
Reminds me of a time back when the drinking age was raised from 18 to 19.
Had a lot of friends who didn't meet the age limit, but we still got alon=
g. =20
Maybe even more.
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: Daisy Welch
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: 25 year rule
Well, the '73 ambassador club is not to pleased with that idea...
that would make us not vintage, just old? :/
Daisy
> Don Hardman wrote:
>
> I just received my VAC newsletter and was surprised to see the
> "Presidents Message from Noland Vogt concerning changing the
> qualification for vintage status. Currently once an A/S is 25 years
> old it is Vintage. According to Mr. Vogt he is considering setting a
> cutoff date such as 1969/1970 to qualify as Vintage or even 1979. He
> also mentioned establishing classifications of Vintage: 1930's, 1940's
> and so on. This probably is not a bad idea but I personally think the
> 25 year rule to determine Vintage status works just fine.
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Guess if my '7=
3 is not old enough to hang out or associate with the <U>Vintage </U>trai=
lers then I guess I should stick with the Boomers (Airstream Boomers=
). Besides my trailers only ten years younger than me so I guess Boomer w=
ould be a more appropriate association since I'm not vintage. But I still=
have a passion for shiny metal, even if it's not gold but still looks go=
od under the rainbow. Maybe I'll see a few more non-vintage A/S's in =
;state parks if we can't join the vintage units, or become excluded due t=
o a cutoff. </DIV> <DIV>Reminds me of a time back when the drinking age w=
as raised from 18 to 19.</DIV> <DIV>Had a lot of friends who didn't meet =
the age limit, but we still got along. </DIV> <DIV>Maybe even more.</DIV>=
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bobby</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D=
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0pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Daisy Welch</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FON=
T: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 01, 2002 11:29 PM</DIV> <DIV st=
yle=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of VACList</DIV> =
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Re: 25 year rule</D=
IV> <DIV> </DIV>Well, the '73 ambassador club is not to pleased with=
that idea...<BR>that would make us not vintage, just old? :/<BR><B=
R>Daisy<BR><BR>> Don Hardman wrote:<BR>><BR>> I just received my=
VAC newsletter and was surprised to see the<BR>> "Presidents Message =
from Noland Vogt concerning changing the<BR>> qualification for vintag=
e status. Currently once an A/S is 25 years<BR>> old it is Vintage. Ac=
cording to Mr. Vogt he is considering setting a<BR>> cutoff date such =
as 1969/1970 to qualify as Vintage or even 1979. He<BR>> also mentione=
d establishing classifications of Vintage: 1930's, 1940's<BR>> and so =
on. This probably is not a bad idea but I personally think the<BR>> 25=
year rule to determine Vintage status works just fine.<BR><BR><BR><BR>To=
unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to<BR>http://a=
irstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html<BR><BR>When replying to a message, p=
lease delete all unnecessary original text<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY=
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:34:03 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Power Jack - 1973 Airstream Overlander
My service manual just says length, not name, but it looks like there is
a circuit breaker 25 Amp, right under the front window, probably behind
the couch. That may be for more than just the jack. the jack itself, if
it is original, deosn't show any fuse or breaker, although there might
be an overload button on the motor.
You might also look at the breakaway switch, if it is original, the jack
is wired through it.
Daisy ( not gifted electrically)
> The Gammon's wrote:
>
> I have run into some difficulties with the power jack on my
> Overlander. According to the service manual, there is a fuse which I
> am thinking may have blown. I have looked around the wires running
> from the jack to the trailer frame but cannot locate a fuse. Can
> anyone point me in the right direction? Should I be looking behind
> the console or in the univolt system for the fuse?
>
> Appreciate your help. Wonderful site!!
>
> Greg G.
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:34:52 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wheel wells and the 25 year rule
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The wheel wells on my tradewind were becoming un calked where they joined the
floor to stop any leak, both present and future I ran a 4in fiberglass tape
around the joint which formed a barrier to the water pinitrating the joint.
Bare in mind DO NOT use one of the kits that are avalable at your local Wal
Mart. the resin is pollyester and probably watered down at the very best
pollyester has a very poor holding ability. Epoxy is the only way to go eaven
then it is not always a cureall.
Jim Smith
1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)
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FACE="Arial" LANG="0">The wheel wells on my tradewind were becoming un calked where
they joined the floor to stop any leak, both present and future I ran a 4in fiberglass
taJim Smith<BR>
1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)</P></FONT></HTML>
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:22:53 -0500
From: "Kit Sullivan Mac.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cover for a Bowen water heater
I am looking for the cover for a Bowen water heater for a 1962 Bambi. Ours
blew off as we were driving. We've been told we could have a replacement
made, but we'd rather have an original if we could find it. Any help would
be appreciated!
Kit
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:08:28 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cover for a Bowen water heater
Hi Kit. Those parts are no longer available. We also do not sell any used
parts. Andy
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:51:43 -0500
From: Terry Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Refinish wood panels - 67 Safari
on 04/02/02 7:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Marlo wants to know what people have done to refinish wood panels etc... as
> our finish looks a little deteriorated by time.
>
Hi Tom and Marlo,
One summer week when the weather forecast was warm and dry , I removed all
the wood panels (everything I could unfasten), sanded them down several
times, wiped the dust off, painted them with clear polyurethane paint, let
them dry for a few days while I cleaned (white glove) the entire interior of
our '67 22' Safari.
Then, I did the same with all the wood framing and other wooded pieces I
couldn't unfasten. The next week, I put everything back together. There's
nothing new in this procedure, but everything looks great, even almost new.
The biggest problem occurred afterwards. Refinishing wood panels led to new
drapes, new carpet, new set of dishes, new silverware, new pots and new
pans. We now have 30# aluminum bottles, a second battery, solar panels,
safety shut off valve on water inlet, convenient on/off switch for
converter, fluorescent lights, new shock absorbers, new tires, new door
handle and keys, installed dead bolt, reinforced structural stringers under
the second battery, added a catalytic heater with separate on/off valve,
repainted the blue exterior trim, recaulked all the exterior seams, cleaned
and waxed all the aluminum (many times), used dielectric grease on all
outside markers, replaced the fresh water tank and the Shurflo pump.
The list goes on. It hasn't ended and probably won't in the near future.
Terry
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"Regardless of circumstances, each man lives in a world of his own making."
Josepha Murray Emms
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:05:38 -0500
From: Porter Gillian L CRPH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Charles Willson//Sewer solution??
Hi All!
I just ordered a sewer solution for my 64 Globe Trotter. I'm wondering if I need to
add a gate valve to the grey water piping so that when back flushing the black water
tank - I don't shoot 'black' water out my drains. How does this work will older unit
And Charles I noticed from the archives (Jan 02) that you have converted the old sewer
connection to a new modern type in order to use the sewer solution and that you have
photos of the job. Any chance you could give me a step by step? How's the sewer s
TIA
Gillian
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:37:48 -0600
From: "John R. Kleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refinish wood panels - 67 Safari
You can refinish the veneer cabinet and closet doors but you have to be
fairly careful as the veneer is thin. I used a random orbital finish sander
with 220 grit and it worked perfect. After the sanding the old lacquer off,
one coat of natural stain and a couple coats of polyurethane and voila!
Just like new.
Randy
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